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I would suggest having some administrative options for private league organizers. As a minimum "kick out" button next to each team in private league board. I am playing private league where zero effort was agreed in advance, while some individuals break the rules and even after several notices their behavior did not change. As such cases don't fall under general games rules and are out of @s focus, I vote for a feature giving private league administrators/creators a right to kick such manager out off the private league (including invitation cancellation), so that such managers don't damage private league for other managers who follow internal private league rules. |
01/02/2014 12:47 |
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ronnie_sk said: I would suggest having some administrative options for private league organizers. As a minimum "kick out" button next to each team in private league board. I am playing private league where zero effort was agreed in advance, while some individuals break the rules and even after several notices their behavior did not change. As such cases don't fall under general games rules and are out of @s focus, I vote for a feature giving private league administrators/creators a right to kick such manager out off the private league (including invitation cancellation), so that such managers don't damage private league for other managers who follow internal private league rules. No, this is a terrible idea. This is too much power to give a random person. What if I start a PL and I'm mad that so and so is better than me? I get to kick him out? That seems unfair. As an aside, I play in a private league where a zero effort rule exists and when someone doesn't follow it you know what happens? NOTHING!!! You know how many members of our private league we have called degrading names in our PL forum? ZERO! Somehow we manage to get along without calling each other "poos and pussies" and we manage to get along and support each other in our regular league games and hope that each other gets promoted (or not relegated at least) If you want to go zero/low effort in your PL, you need to have zero rules and let people do their thing, it's the opposite of a PL really when you choose to go no effort as you're not actually intending the games to be competitive. You can't have PL prize money because someone is going to forget to change their tactics because they're busy or have commitments they can't get out of (you'll do it one day too, I guarantee you) You know why there have been some private leagues that stuck together through many, many seasons? Because they weren't there to prove who was the best at following all of their rules, it was because they genuinely wanted to help each other succeed. One final note. @'s may not have power over enforcing PL rules, but we do still have power over PL forums, so I'd advise you to let people know they can't curse in your PL forums |
01/02/2014 13:24 |
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Maybe in new SM they could make effort % a parameter of the PL? One can only hope!  |
01/02/2014 13:26 |
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It will just into a money making racket we have seen the past. If someone had the right to do it then they can simply invite managers to join. At the time of registration ask for an entry fee and after a few games are played kick out a few / half / or all PL members and walk away with the cash prize. We have seen this happen in the past. So according to me its a terrible idea as well. |
01/02/2014 13:28 |
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Both of you are @s in you group having the right to punish others. None of you (I assume) have ever kicked an opponent to get promotion, prize money, or any other advantage. As private leagues are local leagues, local rules are applied. My suggestion was about having a mechanism to enforce them. Once you get an invitation under certain conditions, you need to have a way to solve it once these conditions are not true anymore. Hierarchy works in every community, even in this one. If you are affraid of giving magic button to PL admin, then you, @s, start taking care of what is happening in PL as well. Define how rules should look like, how they should be published, how they are measured and how they are enforced. |
01/02/2014 14:58 |
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ronnie_sk said: Both of you are @s in you group having the right to punish others. None of you (I assume) have ever kicked an opponent to get promotion, prize money, or any other advantage. If illex was promoting I would probably reset him and promote myself. Im sure illex would not mid it.  Joke As private leagues are local leagues, local rules are applied. My suggestion was about having a mechanism to enforce them. Once you get an invitation under certain conditions, you need to have a way to solve it once these conditions are not true anymore. Hierarchy works in every community, even in this one. It is one of those things that do not fall into the local game rules. It is a personal agreement between the PL organizer and the managers that join it. It is the same as loan deals. You enter into an agreement with a manager but if he fails to do so, there is no rule in the game says that the manager has to be punished or the loan can be reversed. If you are affraid of giving magic button to PL admin, then you, @s, start taking care of what is happening in PL as well. Define how rules should look like, how they should be published, how they are measured and how they are enforced. Its impossible for @s to know what agreement you have with other PL members. There are 100s of PLs in the game and if we start dealing with such things either @s would quit the game / job or developers will need more than 50-60 @s to deal with such cases. Edited by @lucifercave 01-02-2014 15:25 |
01/02/2014 15:25 |
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if i'm not mistaken there's something like this written in the help file of SM... If there is suspicious behavior going on between two or more teams in the league, the administrators may decide to dissolve the league and return everyone's entry fees. if we could have just this option feasible to the person who opened the league, that would be more than enough i think....and there will be no issue with someone remove everybody and runs away with money... |
01/02/2014 16:14 |
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ronnie_sk said: Both of you are @s in you group having the right to punish others. None of you (I assume) have ever kicked an opponent to get promotion, prize money, or any other advantage. As private leagues are local leagues, local rules are applied. My suggestion was about having a mechanism to enforce them. Once you get an invitation under certain conditions, you need to have a way to solve it once these conditions are not true anymore. Hierarchy works in every community, even in this one. If you are affraid of giving magic button to PL admin, then you, @s, start taking care of what is happening in PL as well. Define how rules should look like, how they should be published, how they are measured and how they are enforced. have literally never punished a PL member, besides messing around with them. @'s get these special powers because over time people have trusted us and trust that we wouldn't use our powers to our advantage. We also self police and if another @ did something wrong they would pay dearly. As luci said there would be far too much cheating going on if PL owners could punish members of their PL. Rules that are made up by a PL can not be enforced in any way, shape, or form by @'s or anyone else. You can lay out guidelines for your PL and hope people follow them, but if they don't the only thing you can do is not invite that person back the next season. That's it. There is no financial punishments, no PL point punishments, end of story. |
01/02/2014 16:34 |
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ronnie_sk said: Both of you are @s in you group having the right to punish others. None of you (I assume) have ever kicked an opponent to get promotion, prize money, or any other advantage. There are rules inside @ that prevent people from ruling and punishing others within their own league or group. It doesn't happen, conflict of interest. Sorry, but we don't have the right, and it will get an @ removed. In the past, we were on our own honor, and I would say, unequivocally, shoot straighter than the other two servers combined. We still do, but now you can go straight to the ombudsman if you have an issue. And we will hear about it if we are wrong...very quickly. And it's no fun. |
02/02/2014 08:05 |
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Before I go to Ombudsman @rebsiot, you missed this: TimiZero said: if i'm not mistaken there's something like this written in the help file of SM... If there is suspicious behavior going on between two or more teams in the league, the administrators may decide to dissolve the league and return everyone's entry fees. if we could have just this option feasible to the person who opened the league, that would be more than enough i think Should I suggest that Striker Manager update its Rules and Help sections? Going by your conclusion on this matter, and many other strange @s DISCRETIONAL fines on many crimes, mostly "innocent" ones, these rules are totally outdated and misleading, and the Help section as well. So, did the devs really mean what TimiZero quoted above? |
02/02/2014 19:33 |
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