superkrapper said:
its more fundimental for me @ p

im against our current form of world capitalism, the man u case highlights for me why its wrong:

the Glaziers loaded it with depth and sqeezed the business for more profit to increase share price and pay themselves dividends

football clubs in particular should have been protected from vulture capitalist 'greed is good'

in the 200AD there was A roman charioteer, named Gaius Appuleius Diocles, amassed a fortune 35,863,120 sesterces in prize money – the equivalent of $15 billion (£9.6 billion)

we say history repeats itself and here it is ...

mrkxk said:


man u make me sick

@practicesquad said:
Yeah but you have to have a middle class. Without it, you can't sustain an economy. With that in mind it's all relative, clubs might be worth trillions, but you're average income will increase 20-30 times in proportion.

Ever inflating costs are just another way of keeping the balance with ever increasing income.

The issue for me is resources, and how the seemingly infinite increase in value should in some way be contrasted with the sale and production of goods. You can buy and sell commodities till the cows come home (pun intended), but there are some things you can't just reproduce forever without using up the resources that create them. It just seems like a giant black hole to me and something that can't last forever.

I'm not a student of economics though so I could be way off. If someone could enlighten me in this area I would be very grateful

i think we are all students of economics @P

As u say economies are sustained by ever inflating prices, u also worry about world finite resources (the two being mutually exclusive when born out in long run). RU right:

whilst population is expanding the fiat fractional reserve banking capitalist system we use will expand with it (inflation or growth)
soon as that pop levels or falls the system will fail (see pyramid/ponzi schemes)
also note world sperm counts have dropped over 50% in last 50yrs!

world pop is now 7bn by 2050 it will be 10bn - world birth rates per female currently 2.2 projected to fall to 1.9 by 2050, thus world pop is due to stabilize around 10bn for the very long term --ages comprising roughly as follows... 2bn 0-15, 2bn 16-30, 2bn 31-50, 2bn 51-70 and 2bn 71+ (check out the work of statistician Dr Hans Rosling)

U might have heard India is set as the main net increase,
today India is biggest spender on arms imports in the world

by 2050 fresh water supply will be world issue no.1
scarcity of resources will leads to more conflicts

in mans entire history there has never been a year without a war
- ww1 civilian casualties =10%
ww2 " " =50%
Vietnam " " =70%
Iraq2 " " =90%

its not a pretty picture i paint but if i couldnt get u guys who love football to agree that there is a better way of running clubs than the profit motive then i felt its all hopeless and i should suck a tail pipe now /o\

we have a window of about 10yrs to change our direction b4 we are locked in by our choices

nb
of course there was thomas malthus in the 1700's who said food would run out due to pop increase - he failed to predict mechanisation of farming