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Bro that is not my point here, my team is not my point, can't you seem to understand? Am talking about the general game, please try and comprehend at least, its just a game and trying to see if it can improve.

Currently I live and earn my living as a junior football coach in one of the team here in India, so stop lecturing me about tactics.

Am talking about the general game and not how to improve my team or my tactics
05/10/2014 14:36
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Yubix said:
Bro that is not my point here, my team is not my point, can't you seem to understand? Am talking about the general game, please try and comprehend at least, its just a game and trying to see if it can improve.

Currently I live and earn my living as a junior football coach in one of the team here in India, so stop lecturing me about tactics.

Am talking about the general game and not how to improve my team or my tactics



You're a junior football coach? You should be telling the players they can beat Barcelona then.
05/10/2014 14:39
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At least the possibility of an upset is there but not in SM...why are you lots not addressing the issue.? Huh it is that complex that you can't seem to understand? 05/10/2014 15:12
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Upsets do occur in this game. I have beaten so many teams much better than mine. You need to ask experience managers in div 1 /2 and they'll tell you setting tactics is the best part of this game. Just because you don't know how to set it don't knock it. Tell us what tactics you been using in this game. Do you watch your opponent play and then set your tactics accordingly?

Edited by SlimRazor 05-10-2014 15:22
05/10/2014 15:21
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Yubix said:
At least the possibility of an upset is there but not in SM...why are you lots not addressing the issue.? Huh it is that complex that you can't seem to understand?


So you think it's possible for the team you coach to beat Barcelona? Do you live in a bubble?

We don't address the issue because it isn't a problem. We don't believe a Div 6 team should be able to win the SC. I shouldn't be able to win it with my team which is 85 avg because it isn't good enough, nor are my tactics.

It's like you're just too lazy to put the effort in and make your team better, you expect it all to just happen straight away. How about you just slowly build your team up, improve your tactics and then complain in 10 seasons time. Or, just don't play the game if it's that big of a problem? You seem to be the only one moaning about it.




Edited by liverpool6792 05-10-2014 15:24
05/10/2014 15:23
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Just watched your last game and its obvious you don't know how to set advance formations or tactics. You used RB/LB/LM/RM/LW/RW. So many wide players opponents can just go through middle. Besides your adv formation is set all wrong. LB far too wide and not set to follow the ball. Perhaps you need to read more about how to set formations and tactics before bleating on about the game. 05/10/2014 15:47
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back when i was in div 3 i sold all my players and bought 8 30av seniors. i had 2 loans which were 80av defs and an 82av RM who was my own. I played a game against an 80+average team and won 2-1 it was all based on tactics. Although you cant see the game because it was a while ago i give this as proof http://en.strikermanager.com/foros/hilo.php?id=305482

Still waiting on that Cup final win
05/10/2014 16:43
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Yubix said:
there is no way I can beat your team with my current players, if I like I should invent whatever tactics, strategy etc..

Have you spent just the same time as me making a good team, perfecting formations and tactics or even enough to match me? If yes, then of course you can.

there is no magic but give a novice with a superior players than yours and he will definitely trash you with basic formation.

No way a 90+ avg team can beat me with basic formation. Seems you haven't really gone through the tutorials enough to know how obsolete are the basic formations here.

please can you give me any 3 instances of active manager with inferior players beating an active manager with superior players? Remember the word active and please put player superiority as a clear factor because I have seen a team in division 6 with a better squad than mine, so division does not count Player superiority (what you call player average)


Who knows my head-to-heads better than me?

1.) http://en.strikermanager.com/inicio.php?accion=/equipo.php%3Fid%3D9263 I beat this team in Jan 2013 in Striker cup with a score of 4-3. He was around 60-70 effort and played with 2 strikers and mids and 3 defenders all top class and the rest from his reserves. His team assessment was 80+ where as mine was in the 70s. That day, a div. 5 team did beat a div. 1 team.

2) http://en.strikermanager.com/equipo.php?id=9658 This guy beat me 5-4 in a league game in march this year when he averaged like 68 and I was 85+.

3) http://en.strikermanager.com/inicio.php?accion=/equipo.php%3Fid%3D81021 This guy with 75 avg beat my team in feb in SC.

In all these games, I played 90-100% efforts.


If you were to make the simulation so random that it picks up a team from a lot and declares it the winner of SC, it would be stupidity on a massive level.
The simulator takes into account every minute thing of the teams - player qualities, stamina, fitness, moral, efforts and positioning on the pitch, marking, and a bit too long list of other features. It then determines the outcome of a match-up between the two teams. The team that weighs heavier on the balance wins it, the simulator then calculates the extent of heaviness - i.e., by how many goals should the better team win. Finally, it simulates the whole match for you to view it.
Looking from your point of view, it merely calculates player averages, but no, it calculates everything. A system bot from div 2 may lose against a div 5 team, even with superior players.

Finally, doesn't matter if you're a coach or a pundit, this is a virtual game and not real life scenario. Humans can play very well some day, sometimes they have a very bad game, could fall into deep depression, slip on the pitch several times, refuse to train, etc. Virtual players cannot be emulated that way. Comparing this game to real life is, I think, very weird and impossible.
05/10/2014 17:17
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liverpool6792 said:
We don't believe a Div 6 team should be able to win the SC.


I made the SC semi finals when I was in div 6

That was many seasons ago though

Also, just to comment on this thread, I have an 83 average team in es server, currently 1st in div 4, regularly beating 90 ave teams to do so. It's not impossible to beat teams 5-10 average points higher than you, just very difficult. Generally, the sim is against you and you will need some luck, but you can do it if you work at it.

On another point, the sim is fickle. You can smash a team the first round, then lose the second round, despite neither team making any real changes. Don't give up on a tactic if you lose 1 or 2 games. Give it a few and watch them carefully before you decide if it's your tactics or just bad luck. If it's bad luck, things will turn around if you're patient
05/10/2014 17:47
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@practicesquad said:

I made the SC semi finals when I was in div 6



2011? When div. 4 was the topmost division?
05/10/2014 18:00
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