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 The "owner" of the player is not able to publish the training of the player, i tryed to explain it both with pc and with phone, but i believe he can't find it.
How now?

I want my player back.

Edited by wearethechampion 14-10-2014 11:41 		14/10/2014 11:39
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 It's really only to let players come back from teams that have become inactive. I'm not sure there's another way to do it that's fair to both parties. 14/10/2014 11:40
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wearethechampion said:
The owner of the player is not able to publish the training of the player, i tryed to explain it as with pc as with phone, but i believe he can't find it.
How now?

I want my player back.


Sorry but there's nothing you can do. 		14/10/2014 11:41
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@practicesquad said:
It's really only to let players come back from teams that have become inactive. I'm not sure there's another way to do it that's fair to both parties.


@prac's point is that the return was specifically put in place to help managers who loaned a player out to a team where the manager quit the game. It was not put in place to enforce an agreement between two managers. if you look through the forum you will see many threads on this topic which list the reasons why it would be unfair to allow loan players to be returned.

One example: I have a tough game coming up in the first part of the season. My friend loans me a star player and I win the game. I schedule training that doesn't train the star player and the star player is returned to my friend. If you were the person I played against with the star player, you would consider that cheating and you would be correct.
 14/10/2014 19:21
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@vgates said:
@practicesquad said:
It's really only to let players come back from teams that have become inactive. I'm not sure there's another way to do it that's fair to both parties.


@prac's point is that the return was specifically put in place to help managers who loaned a player out to a team where the manager quit the game. It was not put in place to enforce an agreement between two managers. if you look through the forum you will see many threads on this topic which list the reasons why it would be unfair to allow loan players to be returned.

One example: I have a tough game coming up in the first part of the season. My friend loans me a star player and I win the game. I schedule training that doesn't train the star player and the star player is returned to my friend. If you were the person I played against with the star player, you would consider that cheating and you would be correct.


At the same way that one can ask you a player, promise mountains and never train him at all, What is your shield?
Nothing, it could be possible to warn this man and after for example 3 warnings in a week, to recover your own player.
Better a little training than nothing at all. 		14/10/2014 19:30
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wearethechampion said:


At the same way that one can ask you a player, promise mountains and never train him at all, What is your shield?
Nothing, it could be possible to warn this man and after for example 3 warnings in a week, to recover your own player.
Better a little training than nothing at all.


That doesn't solve the problem I described. Changing the system as you suggest would actually create the problem I described to solve the problem of managers not properly looking into the manger they are loaning to. Thus the suggestion repeated many times in the forum of only loaning to people you know or people who have a reputation for properly training loaned players. 		14/10/2014 19:36
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@vgates said:
wearethechampion said:


At the same way that one can ask you a player, promise mountains and never train him at all, What is your shield?
Nothing, it could be possible to warn this man and after for example 3 warnings in a week, to recover your own player.
Better a little training than nothing at all.


That doesn't solve the problem I described. Changing the system as you suggest would actually create the problem I described to solve the problem of managers not properly looking into the manger they are loaning to. Thus the suggestion repeated many times in the forum of only loaning to people you know or people who have a reputation for properly training loaned players.


I didn't tryed to solve your problem, i gave another reason that the loan construction as build now it doesn't work properly, too many possibilties of cheatings.
Maybe a suggestion to you and your team to work on it in the future. 		14/10/2014 19:49
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wearethechampion said:
@vgates said:
@practicesquad said:
It's really only to let players come back from teams that have become inactive. I'm not sure there's another way to do it that's fair to both parties.


@prac's point is that the return was specifically put in place to help managers who loaned a player out to a team where the manager quit the game. It was not put in place to enforce an agreement between two managers. if you look through the forum you will see many threads on this topic which list the reasons why it would be unfair to allow loan players to be returned.

One example: I have a tough game coming up in the first part of the season. My friend loans me a star player and I win the game. I schedule training that doesn't train the star player and the star player is returned to my friend. If you were the person I played against with the star player, you would consider that cheating and you would be correct.


At the same way that one can ask you a player, promise mountains and never train him at all, What is your shield?
Nothing, it could be possible to warn this man and after for example 3 warnings in a week, to recover your own player.
Better a little training than nothing at all.

Ask for references. 		14/10/2014 20:16
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 It is always better to ask for training schedules in this case. Some train defenders as well as mids and gets mids on loan, then you'll find that the mid you've loaned isn't training as you expected (I became a victim this season, i don't know how. But I messaged him my concern and he listened to it).

Knowing what your companion plans to do with your player is probably the safest way to avoid problems.

EDIT: Here is what happened. Guy asked for the player thinking that he is a senior player. Instead, gets a junior player and now he doesn't know what to do with him. He would probably go untrained for the whole season.


Edited by @yoyoyoyoyo 14-10-2014 20:50 		14/10/2014 20:44
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SuTaGar said:
wearethechampion said:
@vgates said:
@practicesquad said:
It's really only to let players come back from teams that have become inactive. I'm not sure there's another way to do it that's fair to both parties.


@prac's point is that the return was specifically put in place to help managers who loaned a player out to a team where the manager quit the game. It was not put in place to enforce an agreement between two managers. if you look through the forum you will see many threads on this topic which list the reasons why it would be unfair to allow loan players to be returned.

One example: I have a tough game coming up in the first part of the season. My friend loans me a star player and I win the game. I schedule training that doesn't train the star player and the star player is returned to my friend. If you were the person I played against with the star player, you would consider that cheating and you would be correct.


At the same way that one can ask you a player, promise mountains and never train him at all, What is your shield?
Nothing, it could be possible to warn this man and after for example 3 warnings in a week, to recover your own player.
Better a little training than nothing at all.

Ask for references.


That's pretty much all you can do. Most people who post regularly in forums won't screw you on loaning players. The fact is, it's in your best interest to respect a loan agreement or you will find getting loans in future very difficult. If I was you I'd take this as a lesson for future agreements - harsh as it is.
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