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I think this is stupid. The only reason this is being implemented is because you want to take money (from who) out of the game. But all you are really doing is making it easy for managers in Higher Divisions + GB buyers to cherry pick high progression player no matter the salary. I dont think we will see Div 5-6 managers with youth salaries over 500k because they do not have the income to support it.

Now my suggestion is to do the exact same as you have done with very young 14-15 yr old players & hostile auctions. The ability to resign 14-15 yrs old but not anyone else older. Because young players dont warrant those high contracts but more developed high progression talents do.
19/03/2015 14:40
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DirkDiggler said:
I think this is stupid. The only reason this is being implemented is because you want to take money (from who) out of the game. But all you are really doing is making it easy for managers in Higher Divisions + GB buyers to cherry pick high progression player no matter the salary. I dont think we will see Div 5-6 managers with youth salaries over 500k because they do not have the income to support it.

Now my suggestion is to do the exact same as you have done with very young 14-15 yr old players & hostile auctions. The ability to resign 14-15 yrs old but not anyone else older. Because young players dont warrant those high contracts but more developed high progression talents do.


We had this discussion before I believe, but it really doesn't hurt lower div players the way you think it does.

If I'm in Div 5 (or even 4) and I've been around for just 2-3 seasons, I probably shouldn't be buying 90+ prog players to train as my resources are better spent elsewhere, and if I've got a 90+ prog player from a school, I should probably sell it, as the money made from it is probably better for me short term than the player training is long term. Yes it is sort of bad to make it harder for lower division players to hold on to good juniors, but there is also a case to be made that lower div players need to ramp up into being able to afford premium players.

It's not even that expensive though! Look at this:
http://en.strikermanager.com/jugador.php?id_jugador=20567604
http://en.strikermanager.com/jugador.php?id_jugador=20567610
I just promoted these random guys from schools, and they show the good an bad end of the spectrum of fidelity. The Croatian guy is going to cost you all of 2 million per season for the next 4 seasons, and will never get hostiled if he's mid range prog (roughly under 90 prog) because you can currently get about an 85 average LF for his clause. The other guy isn't so good with fidelity and would run you about 6 million per season, but again, you can get an 85+ average LM for that price so his clause doesn't need to be that high.

Generally speaking you can get 85-90 prog 14/15 year olds for about 20-30m each. Their clauses don't need to be above 100m, for the first 2-3 seasons. If they get hostiled from 0-75 average, you've probably made more than market value off of the players. That means for each season you're probably paying no more than 1-3 million per player to keep them, which is pretty manageable for a smaller manager. If you're vigilant with resigning players multiple times over the course of the season keeping them in line with the market and with their training, the price goes even lower.


19/03/2015 17:28
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For me, SM is coming to an end!!

thanks
20/03/2015 00:42
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Essentially, the administrators have made a unilateral decision on the division 4/5/6 managers behalf that the best, and now only, way to build a team is through the market, rather than through a junior team. No junior team will be able to sustain a junior team consisting of multiple high progression players. In doing this, they have also made it more difficult for Division 1/2/3 players to play the game, in general, as the junior team will require much more supervision and time than I'm sure most would like to spend.
20/03/2015 00:53
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Are you telling me that when you now buy a junior from market and close your browser, then login again , only not to find the player hostiled already ? how many low div managers can afford high salaries ? 20/03/2015 15:08
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This update needs tobe scrap out.
Take off deposit instead.
20/03/2015 15:29
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I agree with illex,you can keep your juniors 85-90prog for 1- 1.5M per week.
High div. teams with high prog jrs need to pay a lot 5M+,its not easy for big teams to keep weeklies low.
20/03/2015 16:12
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In my opinion it won't be so bad. Basic economics of supply and demand will drastically drop the price of players due to the sudden influx of high prog players that are available. The market will take a few weeks to adjust. 20/03/2015 17:51
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blairco said:
In my opinion it won't be so bad. Basic economics of supply and demand will drastically drop the price of players due to the sudden influx of high prog players that are available. The market will take a few weeks to adjust.


You might want to explain what this basic economics is bc you are talking as if the DEVs are increasing the amount of 90+ prog players, when in fact the only thing changing is the market. And its obvious the markets will adjust thats a given once a new variable is introduced. There's is no influx of new 90+ prog players what there is a market free market with no regulation. Especially when the flow of info is geared towards higher more experienced manager/ GB users. Some might not have the financial security to withstand the expenses of ALL these high progression they are holding but as we all know the biggest advantage is to identify these players first. Far too few managers (new and lower division) will benefit from these open clauses because they dont know what the appropriate "market value" is. Since knowledge is on the more experienced managers sided the protection usually afforded to new managers/ lower div is eliminated & transferred monetarily to upper Div's.

Also, older players might face a devaluation (depending on position) so maybe some higher avg players will become available to lower div managers but they come with high salaries. And we know 95% of them cant handle the expense especially since they keep signing & re-signing to "meet" market value.


20/03/2015 20:21
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