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soloje said: my remark is just about the pass skill, very difficult to improve how do you expect a defender to pass effectively what they are good at is clearance. Pass are for midfielders even strikers don't pass better than midfielders. So for them to train pass skill like you have said will be slow. And you were comparing the lb/rb to the lb/rb in the real life. If you activate a default formation like 3-4-3a or 4-3-3 you will notice that the lb/rb don't pass the defensive line. That is how this game has been programmed. They don't have any business in attack they are just fast defenders that stop attack on the wings in most cases. So there is no need for them to have pass skill. The lb/rb in the real life are the lm/rm in sm. Edited by Dannyrayz 02-07-2017 13:42 |
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Just I said 2 things 1- the pass skill of Lor R back defender is more difficult to improve than for R&L defender or Central, not logical 2- In modern football L & R defender are used as offensive player on the side, their center skill is important and the best L& R back defender are very good on this skill. this is not possible today in game |
02/07/2017 18:46 |
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soloje said: Just I said 2 things 1- the pass skill of Lor R back defender is more difficult to improve than for R&L defender or Central, not logical 2- In modern football L & R defender are used as offensive player on the side, their center skill is important and the best L& R back defender are very good on this skill. this is not possible today in game the number 2 is not possible in this game. But you were saying that if you train your players on pass skill,your ldf,rdf and cdf will gain pass skill more than lb/rb. In my own opinion it may be the progression of the players if your lb and rb have 70 prog and your cdf,ldf and rdf have 80 prog. You can't expect the lb/rb to gain pass skill more than the trio. |
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2 training can improve the pass skill for defenders Clearance and intercepting pass Clearance :efficiency is better for central defender regarding the pass skill than for back defender( double effect) intercepting pass: is similar for the both back and central defender. so it s easier to improve the pass skill for central defender than for side back defender regarding my 2 point, I would say that the center training should have an impact on the pass skill of side back defender Edited by soloje 02-07-2017 19:20 |
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soloje said: Just I said 2 things 1- the pass skill of Lor R back defender is more difficult to improve than for R&L defender or Central, not logical 2- In modern football L & R defender are used as offensive player on the side, their center skill is important and the best L& R back defender are very good on this skill. this is not possible today in game so that is what you mean. That you can use two training(clearance & intercepting passes) to increase the pass skill while the backs is only a training(intercepting passes). See if am right,then what i will tell you is that you have relayed sm to be as the normal day life. Now take this step go to your coach then training then click on order. When you see clearance, don't click order just click on look and you will notice that the backs also have green bars. So backs and defenders have two equal training that can increase their pass skill. |
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I know what you are explaining, that what I did and in addition I update each day an Excel chart for the training of all my players ( mainly the young team) In this chart I note the value of the improvement of each player for the training of the day ( the day before I mean) , for instance the pass skill for clearance training. on the chart what you are speaking about the the bars are always green but the size is different, and the size of the bar is proportional to the effect of the training. So there, you can note that for the clearance training the bar size for the central defenders is approximately the double than for the side back defenders Edited by soloje 02-07-2017 19:38 Edited by soloje 02-07-2017 19:45 Edited by soloje 02-07-2017 19:46 |
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I see. But you just have to accept it that way. Use what you have to get what you want you can stop using backs since they don't increase on passes compared to defenders. | 02/07/2017 20:16 |
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I see. But you just have to accept it that way. Use what you have to get what you want you can stop using backs since they don't increase on passes compared to defenders. | 02/07/2017 20:16 |
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Intercepting passes trains slightly better for xB and clearances better for xDF according to the green bars. That said, I have two xB's that have higher passing than my xDF's, including the one I trained up. Most managers use xDF rather than xB because they defend better in the middle, where most managers attack. An inprovement that would be interesting for xB is to have them cross the ball or improve their shot ability. That would give managers a reason to train xB again. That said, I doubt it will happen. |
02/07/2017 23:17 |
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Dannyrayz said: I see. But you just have to accept it that way. Use what you have to get what you want you can stop using backs since they don't increase on passes compared to defenders. If a game is not going forward , it will going backward soon and will lose his customer, that's the business life |
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