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Should SM limit the number of players of the same position in the squad?
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Yes, but only on Junior Squad.
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well again , all managers here train specific positions , smart way to train and to make money ... or else we will have alot of unbalanced training in junior team .. and this game wont make any sense after it ... like u can have max 1 GK or 2 GK in junior , that means no one will train GKS in junior team , and means u need 5 season to have just 2 good GKs with would decrease nb of good GK in this game .. ... how would managers make money or have GKs in this game?!


15/10/2013 20:33
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akleb said:
well again , all managers here train specific positions , smart way to train and to make money ... or else we will have alot of unbalanced training in junior team .. and this game wont make any sense after it ... like u can have max 1 GK or 2 GK in junior , that means no one will train GKS in junior team , and means u need 5 season to have just 2 good GKs with would decrease nb of good GK in this game .. ... how would managers make money or have GKs in this game?!


It's one way of putting it. But I still think farming wouldn't be over as you say...just limited to a fair amount. What difference does it make for a person to train 15 GK's that wont be sold anytime soon to anyone that need them to play the game...and coaching 5 GK's 5 CDF's and 5 CF's? In terms of money...it would be the same for the farmer. But in terms of market...it would made players available to all...and not just the top players.

But be as it may...at least make hostile clauses to be available for any player. Hostile clauses are there for what reason then? If I want a player that a farmer has and I can match the hostile clause....why can't I pay for it? since he will receive money for the clause met...and I will have the player that the other manager doesn't need because he's just keeping it for farming!
15/10/2013 20:44
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I voted "no". Your original comment was about individuals buying up all the 14 year old GKs. This happens from time to time but as of right now there are 8 14YO GKs available in the next 24 hours and 3 of them have auction prices of $0. But even if you can't get one of these there are a whole load of 15 year olds available. If it is just to get a GK for your juniors then it makes very little difference - it starts to make a difference when you are trying to train them to sell them.

I honestly don't see it as an issue. As mentioned above, you need to specialize to enable you to get anywhere. I have spent the last 4 seasons building up my junior defenders. At the start of next season I will be promoting a whole bunch to my senior team where 4 or 5 of them will immediately become 75% to 80% starters (LDF, CDF, CDF, RDF and DFM). To buy players of that quality would be impossible for me and so I have spent time growing my own. I will also sell a few of them to help fund an improved CF. Technically I didn't need to go beyond the 5 players per position per team limit you suggested, but there are managers who train more specialised positions (GK, CF, OM) who do need to go beyond 5 to make it financially worthwhile.
15/10/2013 20:46
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I voted "no". Your original comment was about individuals buying up all the 14 year old GKs. This happens from time to time but as of right now there are 8 14YO GKs available in the next 24 hours and 3 of them have auction prices of $0. But even if you can't get one of these there are a whole load of 15 year olds available. If it is just to get a GK for your juniors then it makes very little difference - it starts to make a difference when you are trying to train them to sell them.

I honestly don't see it as an issue. As mentioned above, you need to specialize to enable you to get anywhere. I have spent the last 4 seasons building up my junior defenders. At the start of next season I will be promoting a whole bunch to my senior team where 4 or 5 of them will immediately become 75% to 80% starters (LDF, CDF, CDF, RDF and DFM). To buy players of that quality would be impossible for me and so I have spent time growing my own. I will also sell a few of them to help fund an improved CF. Technically I didn't need to go beyond the 5 players per position per team limit you suggested, but there are managers who train more specialised positions (GK, CF, OM) who do need to go beyond 5 to make it financially worthwhile.


My suggestion is not only fo GK's, obviously. I meant it for any position...I just gave an example of 14 yo GK's.
15/10/2013 20:54
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My suggestion is not only fo GK's, obviously. I meant it for any position...I just gave an example of 14 yo GK's.


we gave u a counter idea just from the GK point of view.. again ... i am barely making it with salaries in my senior team, if i want to also increase my junior salary so other don't hostile my 94 pr junior players , i would be in red and get deleted in now time , same for alll other managers .....

and again that mean no one trains GKs.. and same for other positions .. like CDFs ....

we will have a shortage in some position , if we do what u suggested

15/10/2013 21:31
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and training different positions in juniors , means we will all have low av players . 4 season training for different positions . will decrease players av and we will have inconsistency 15/10/2013 21:33
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akleb said:
we gave u a counter idea just from the GK point of view.. again ... i am barely making it with salaries in my senior team, if i want to also increase my junior salary so other don't hostile my 94 pr junior players , i would be in red and get deleted in now time , same for alll other managers .....

and again that mean no one trains GKs.. and same for other positions .. like CDFs ....

we will have a shortage in some position , if we do what u suggested


Ah, ok...I get it. Thing is...people are too preocupied with the suggestions I made...they seem to think of it as an offensive remark to the game. If I didn't like the game...I wouldn't play it at all. I made suggestions that I think would make the game more competitive...only that. But no need to find my contributions as a freakin' stake through the heart!

Aruen stated that he/she plays about 2 years and still can't get above div4.
I play for 1 year only...and last season, much to my surprise coming from div6 on the previous, I ascended to div4 right away even though I didn't think that I had quality enough to stay there. So instead of chosing to buy a whole new team...and get filled with debt...I chose to go back to div5 (where I'm currently in 1st place and I think I will be in div4 again next year, with a better team than last year).
Did all that without farming...without loans...and each year I make a small but good profit. So don't tell me that I need to shut up...for what it's worth...in 1 year, I accomplished what Aruen made in 2 years time (though I'm not filled with farming money). It's just different ways to manage a team.

But one thing is for sure...I'm gonna stop making suggestions or even talk to other players...if the outcome is to get scolded everytime I do that...then I simply keep on playing and not contribute anymore.

Silence becometh.
15/10/2013 23:02
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Don't take it so personally. You made your suggestion and others disagreed (albeit, some more forcefully than others). It seems like the vast majority don't see an issue with the way it is right now and so nobody supported your ideas.

I have seen a lot worse ones, but I don't take issue with the way it is now. Keep on putting out the ideas and see what comes of the discussion. This didn't strike me as a personal attack against you, just against your suggestion.

If at first you don't succeed (avoid skydiving and) try, try and try again.
16/10/2013 00:14
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Don't take it so personally. You made your suggestion and others disagreed (albeit, some more forcefully than others). It seems like the vast majority don't see an issue with the way it is right now and so nobody supported your ideas.

I have seen a lot worse ones, but I don't take issue with the way it is now. Keep on putting out the ideas and see what comes of the discussion. This didn't strike me as a personal attack against you, just against your suggestion.

If at first you don't succeed (avoid skydiving and) try, try and try again.


Agreed. You clearly aren't stupid, the idea just wasn't very well thought out. I got annoyed not at you, but at the fact that this is the third "let's make the game more fair for Division 6" suggestion I've seen this week. I apologize if I offended you.
16/10/2013 01:50
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Maybe the best improvement to end "mass farming" would be to have specific position coaches instead of just senior and junior coaches, but there would still be a few managers that would still concentrate on possitions that would bring the greatest rewards 16/10/2013 03:19
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