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Well you're going to need them if you want to get anywhere... (which you would jave known had you hit up general chat at any time to ask). If you save about 20 mil you should be able to get 89+ coaches in a day by hiring/firing. The rest is just golden balls

Edited by @practicesquad 18-02-2014 00:56
18/02/2014 00:54
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@-@practicesquad

you are the 72nd ranked player in the game not div 5 struggling 70 avg. wtf?

i'm not trivializing the 3 guys you mentioned. That's how YOU are taking it.

This "help" you are referring to is exactly the bs cheating that I am talking about. Oh yes it's all within your fiscal rules, secretly exchanging players with high progressions to "help" someone make billions. Shame on you. Triple shame on you. All of you are admins, you police the game....but in actuality yes you just help your friends in chat.

i'll come brown nose it and see if you guys will sell me a decent lump of coal. Great game strategy...


Chat is dead and so is this debate.
18/02/2014 00:56
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Lol! I'm in div 5 on Spanish server haha here I am doing ok.

And the help I'm referring to is advice

You have a lot to learn my friend
18/02/2014 00:57
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Palefox said:
@-@practicesquad

you are the 72nd ranked player in the game not div 5 struggling 70 avg. wtf?

i'm not trivializing the 3 guys you mentioned. That's how YOU are taking it.

This "help" you are referring to is exactly the bs cheating that I am talking about. Oh yes it's all within your fiscal rules, secretly exchanging players with high progressions to "help" someone make billions. Shame on you. Triple shame on you. All of you are admins, you police the game....but in actuality yes you just help your friends in chat.

i'll come brown nose it and see if you guys will sell me a decent lump of coal. Great game strategy...


Chat is dead and so is this debate.


"Secretly exchanging" - I'd love to get in on the secret exchanges.... seriously though, you have to put in your time before you expect to see results. I just passed my third year market on this game and it has taken me a long time to get where I am. I buy mostly 14 and 15 year-old juniors with high progression - and lots of other people want those players too. It's a battle, not a secret exchange for high quality players.

Edited by @Lifeguard 18-02-2014 01:12
18/02/2014 01:11
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Basically you are trying to strong arm me into saying there are no cheats. But I'm not being quiet about it.

I got your advice in chat, but you gave your friend the 90 program goal keep that made him 500 mil to jump start his franchise.

Want to keep going?
Ok.

A nicknamed 90 program player goes on auction...Bidding starts and ends and someone wins. Most likely they paid heavy. Now this is all based on a nickname...the buyer learns it was false. The buyer is out big cash, gone nothing in return. The fiscals punish the selller with a fine.
Second scenario is @practicesquad gets a 90 program rdf but he has 4 already and billions to burn so cash is no issue. However his "friend" needs more cash to compete. Said player goes on auction as a no nickname 14yo and only his friend knows it! So he spends the money wins the auction and all is good in the land of clouds where the SM giants reside.


Learn you must. -Yoda

Go BC!

Edited by Palefox 18-02-2014 01:16
18/02/2014 01:12
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I've sold some +80 prog players on auction and they went for 0 or a little above it. If you don't get players with good progression, it's because you're not looking. And yes, people get on chat and find help. Why should you have a problem that they do? There are FAQs and of course, this forum as well.

Btw, I don't buy +90 prog players because I cannot afford them.
18/02/2014 01:19
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Palefox said:
Basically you are trying to strong arm me into saying there are no cheats. But I'm not being quiet about it.

I got your advice in chat, but you gave your friend the 90 program goal keep that made him 500 mil to jump start his franchise.

Want to keep going?
Ok.

A nicknamed 90 program player goes on auction...Bidding starts and ends and someone wins. Most likely they paid heavy. Now this is all based on a nickname...the buyer learns it was false. The buyer is out big cash, gone nothing in return. The fiscals punish the selller with a fine.
Second scenario is @practicesquad gets a 90 program rdf but he has 4 already and billions to burn so cash is no issue. However his "friend" needs more cash to compete. Said player goes on auction as a no nickname 14yo and only his friend knows it! So he spends the money wins the auction and all is good in the land of clouds where the SM giants reside.


Learn you must. -Yoda


As an @ we know the rules of the game better than most and so it would be unethical for us to mislabel a player or to sell a high progression player to a friend for nothing. That said, there is the search+ function which allows any user to scout out high progression players while on teams or on auction and they can bid on players with no nicknames that way.

Now I am not condoning the practice of either mislabelling a player or not making his forecast and progression known while auctioning him buy neither am I denying that it happens. It does, and we the moderators do our best to punish anyone who does this to ensure as much as possible fairness for everyone in the game. So your argument is invalid sir, we do our utmost to ensure the equal chance of obtaining good players for those that try to fairly.
18/02/2014 01:19
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Palefox said:
Basically you are trying to strong arm me into saying there are no cheats. But I'm not being quiet about it.

I got your advice in chat, but you gave your friend the 90 program goal keep that made him 500 mil to jump start his franchise.

Want to keep going?
Ok.

A nicknamed 90 program player goes on auction...Bidding starts and ends and someone wins. Most likely they paid heavy. Now this is all based on a nickname...the buyer learns it was false. The buyer is out big cash, gone nothing in return. The fiscals punish the selller with a fine.


No one has really forced you (i mean in general and not meant at you) to bid on players just based on labels. If you arent sure you can ask the manager to make the forecast visible. If he refuses dont bid if you dont want to take a chance. All you need to do is message the concerned manager. None of us can really do it for you.


Second scenario is @practicesquad gets a 90 program rdf but he has 4 already and billions to burn so cash is no issue. However his "friend" needs more cash to compete. Said player goes on auction as a no nickname 14yo and only his friend knows it! So he spends the money wins the auction and all is good in the land of clouds where the SM giants reside.


Learn you must. -Yoda

Go BC!

Edited by Palefox 18-02-2014 01:16


In case you did not know most of the top managers buy Golden Balls and run search+ atleast once in 2 days to keep an eye on deals like you mentioned above. The players never really go cheap and almost never reach the intended manager ("Friend").

Instead of going all crazy and accusing @s and all the top managers in the game as cheats you really need to look where you went wrong in the past year.

I have played the game longest than most of the managers and yet it took me a year to realize that what I was doing was wrong and corrected myself.

There are only 2 ways to make money in the game. Either you spend a few euros and buy Gbs and sit all day and run search+ to find suitable hostile targets or buy unlabeled high progression players on auction and then forecast and resell them with a hope you get more out of them.

OR

Buy 80+ progression juniors and train them for 4 seasons till they reach 80+ average and sell them. If you sell off your juniors before they hit 80 average you will never earn a profit.

As for you being stuck in Div 5 for eternity make a new formation and test it out in friendlies and PLs (thats what PLs are for). Refine your tactics and get your team up.
18/02/2014 01:29
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I play the game fair. I'm not a noob. I ask for help, watch every you-tube video in 4 languages, read all the faqs and forums. chatted you all up, switch forms, buy cheap 80's, hostile, search search etc.

Only responses here are from high division @'s. In attempts to invalidate the argument. Maybe I am wrong but something is not right.

" You are not the first person to claim the game is unfair because you don't know what your doing,"

"So your argument is invalid sir, we do our utmost to ensure the equal chance of obtaining good players for those that try to fairly."

"Instead of going all crazy and accusing @s and all the top managers in the game as cheats you really need to look where you went wrong in the past year. "

"Wow man you need to chill out, "

"The idea that players like these (and others like them) achieved their positions through the methods you suggest trivialises their achievements and that's not fair "

"learn to respect those who have success and maybe you might start getting somewhere."

"As for you being stuck in Div 5 for eternity make a new formation and test it out in friendlies and PLs (thats what PLs are for). Refine your tactics and get your team up. "


"Why would I trade one queen for one hundred kings?"

"Long live the queen."










Edited by Palefox 18-02-2014 01:56

Edited by Palefox 18-02-2014 02:08
18/02/2014 01:51
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Palefox said:
Basically you are trying to strong arm me into saying there are no cheats. But I'm not being quiet about it.


No strong arming here man, there's plenty of cheats in the game. I have to find and deal with them on a daily basis. There's a difference though between cheats and people that play the game within the rules and are successful at it. You seem to suggest that there is no difference which is why I've taken the time to reply to your posts.

Furthermore you imply that success is impossible without being underhanded, which I know to be false firsthand, and would offend many managers who have done the time and the learning to get where they are. You are not the first person to claim the game is unfair because you don't know what your doing, and won't be the last, but listen to what these guys are telling you and you'll at least start to see a way out. We're here to help you buddy, and we will if you want it
18/02/2014 01:58
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