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I have been relegated from div 2 3 times in a row incase you did not know. This is my 4th time i have been in div 2 and for the first time im in top 5 rather than been struggling to stay out of relegation. Only thing that has changed is that I trained my defenders to 90 average over the past 4 seasons and managed to get a decent formation.

Anyways we @s have tried our best to make you understand how things are and your multiple post labeling the top managers in the game as cheats is wrong, but yet you refuse to listen to others. There is nothing much we can do here.

You are free to form your opinions on the game and the users as long as you do not end up offending someone in the process.

Still if you need any help you can approach any @ and they will be more than happy to guide you.

18/02/2014 02:18
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Edited by @practicesquad 18-02-2014 02:25
18/02/2014 02:18
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On that note, I close.

If you think people are cheating, file a cheat report.

If you think @ are cheating, contact the ombudsman or message me.

Any more of this crap here will result in 72h ban.
18/02/2014 02:36
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There is plenty of cheating in striker manager, but it is almost entirely by players who are new to the game. They often believe that it is more fun to win and so open up several accounts at a time. Some games (like Clash of Clans) actually encourage this, but it is a problem here, so we mostly spend our time shutting that down. Any manager who has been around longer than 6 months is very unlikely to be cheating that way.

Occasionally managers will sell a player to a friend for a price that is too low, or even too high (give them extra cash) and it is often not even intended to be a cheat. We adjust those transactions. I wrote a tool we use that allows us to search for transactions with no links (aggregated data) that we can use to quickly determine a price range that is legal and when a fishy transaction is reported, we discuss it if there is any doubt of its legality and also debate what would be a fair punishment.

Now, for you to throw around delusional paranoid accusations of cheating is your right, and I won't say you are wrong. I will, however, ask you to use the cheat report tool and ombudsman to present your evidence of this cheating.

The only evidence you have presented in this thread is of your own dramatic inferiority as a manager. All of my top players were trained up from juniors. My CF was purchased just before the current simulator was released - in September, 2011. It took me 2 actual calendar years to train him. My 90 RIM was purchased in August of that year, my 92 RW also bought around that time.

If you do not have the drive, the interest, or the intelligence to find the best players and train them for 8 seasons, then that is only cheating in your mind, not in the reality most of us inhabit.

Good day to you sir!
18/02/2014 02:39
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In other words, stop fighting windmills, Quixote. 18/02/2014 02:43
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I guess we learned how to wake up the @s.

We all bust our backsides to keep this game as fair as possible. Oh, and we all have real lives too. I just got home from working a 12 hour shift and have two young kids. I don't have a lot of free time. Yet, my enjoyment of this game brings me back every day.

I've been in division 3 for 5 seasons, with a relegation to division 4 sandwiched in there. Many would have quit, but I'm finally competing for promotion this season because I've spent way, way too many hours playing this game. Why, you ask? I love it.

I don't have billions of dollars. In fact, I have $116 million and was down to $5 million just a few weeks ago. I've had over $1 billion exactly once in two years, and I spent it pretty much immediately on two good players from the auction market.

My 90 average CDF? Trained up from 30. My 84 average RDF? Trained up from 29. My 85 average RDF? Trained up from 37. My 89 average LF? Purchased in the 70s from a competitive auction and trained up every single day for 3 seasons. Did I use loans to help me in this process? Absolutely, but that's part of the strategy.

Thanks, and have a nice day!

Edited by @sabrefan62 18-02-2014 02:55
18/02/2014 02:50
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A few points that weren't touched on

1. @'s police each other, and if an @ was found to be doing something like selling players with fake prog, that person would get punished harder than a non @ ever would.

2. You mentioned that you read through FAQ's and watched videos and what not. That will get you to a certain point, but it won't take you all the way. The key to success is the social aspect of the game, make friends, get tactical tips, good training schedules, etc. That will get you the further than any FAQ can get you.
18/02/2014 03:03
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Since there was a complaint that no one but @'s responded, I'll chime in...

1) I have run GB searches and found players on auction without a nickname many times. I have found them from people who do not have GB's to name and from people who have. I have bid up and won those players and have bid up and lost when the price exceeded what I was willing to pay. If there were two managers cheating to give good prog players, they lost because I ran GB search.

2) I have yet to find a PL where the league is really willing to test and try formations to help everyone improve. There are one or two players who will help but that is because you become friends. I have asked and will continue to ask for a PL where everyone truly wants to help each other improve in their division.

3) I'm in Div 5 for the second season. I started in Div 6 about 2/3rds through a season and of course stayed in Div 6 but at the end of the next season I promoted to Div 5. I finished 3rd my second season in Div 5 because my opponents changed their formation to something better than when I beat them the first time around and because I changed my formation to something worse and lost to players I had previously beaten. I hope to promote to Div 4 at the end of this season.

4) I play friendlies against better teams and I always ask kindly if the other manager would be willing to watch the game or replay and offer any advice. I can assure that some of the people in this thread have readily helped me with advice on my formation.

5) I have had other managers approach me with the SM version of the Nigerian letter scam. "I will give you $1B cash if you buy me GB's." Guess what? I didn't accept the offer. And I bet that the person who does quickly finds out just how hard it is to give someone $1B in cash without the @'s noticing and punishing them.

Do cheaters exist here? Of course, just like they do in any other game. But SM actually employs people to search out and punish the cheaters rather than do nothing like many other MMO's do.

And I do not for a minute believe that any of the @'s are cheaters. In every instance in which I have asked a question or asked for help, every single @ has been responsive. I have a tremendous amount of respect for them. They really do not deserve the scorn you are hurling at them.

Regards and best of luck....
18/02/2014 05:36
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There may be plenty of cheating in SM but that doesnt mean its to be blamed on @s.They unlike common men are free of worldly temptations.After years of following SM celibacy they sare made @s.kidding aside Many of your arguments refering to them are wrong.Your excellent school not giving 90+ players is not their doing at all.Trust me everyone is as sick of schools as you are.In all my years here i just got one 90+ and sold him to get good money.Now your point refering to selling players without nicknames does not equals to cheating in all cases.Not everyone has GBs and may wants to spend them for showing FC. Many advertise players while still in schools in forum and find potential buyers without having to name anyone.Ofcource this is a honest day's reward after some hectic and long negotiations for a price under rules or else you have to answer to @s.
There are loads of quality players out there mate.This is something that i can tell you from my own experience.There was a time in SM when 80+ players were very rare sight,just a few in top division.Now i see many 90+ even in my division.Also earlier any junior above prog 75 was considered good and anything above 82 worth dying for.Now no one buys anything below 80!How is this possible if we believe that SM is ruled by some elite group who want to opress the poor common managers?This is a free market mate free for everyone to exploit.Success is nothing but making the best out of everything within rules as they have done in SM.Its not making money that makes a difference but how you spend it does..
@s get nothing but respect from me.
18/02/2014 15:45
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Palefox said:
Only train dfm/mid atm.


u have been in this game since 18/07/2012

u have 90 av coach ,

u have 84 -85 progression players...

your tactics and formation are close to being basic formation

your stadium is OK , but wont do you any good if your formation and tactics cant make u at least stay in div 4

you stayed in div 6 and 7 for 6 season ...

i promoted to div 2 back then just with my formation and buying senior players , i didn't know anyone in this game and didn't train junior for like 3 season .. bc i was a noob too

then after 3 season , i started training backs bc i didnt have GB to use ,and didnt have any money ( slow start from other managers , especially manager that used GB )

now i am rank 1 ..... so really blaming other is easy , blaming yourself is hard ...

i leave you with this speech , watch it till the end ....




18/02/2014 19:45
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