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Ali Agharabi said: vgates said: So I have back to back games this coming weekend against teams who are disqualified in A2. Do I play them with full effort? My advice - use your B team.  I always use my B team. I was more wondering because of the chart but also for however our rules work for promotion to C1. At the end of the season, assuming there were more reliable teams wanting into C1 than slots available, do the games against disqualified opponents get manually removed from the standings? |
21/04/2014 22:44 |
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vgates said: Ali Agharabi said: vgates said: So I have back to back games this coming weekend against teams who are disqualified in A2. Do I play them with full effort? My advice - use your B team. I always use my B team. I was more wondering because of the chart but also for however our rules work for promotion to C1. At the end of the season, assuming there were more reliable teams wanting into C1 than slots available, do the games against disqualified opponents get manually removed from the standings? Good question. As you can see from the chart, some teams have played over 0% effort, but as it was against a cheat, or against someone who had alerted everyone in advance, no violations are recorded. The violations are only recorded if it was an unlawful use of more than 0% effort. This is how it will work - your promotion to C1 will depend on the number of violations, and not necessarily the number of times you play above 0%. You're free to use more than 0% against Al karama and FC ZENITH without recording any violations. |
22/04/2014 08:02 |
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Round 8 7 teams non zero on Sunday. C1 clean A1 Naissus traditionally .. no comment Disqualified Cardiacs get an excuse while were against disqualified Manchester Nigerian relegation get another one, one more and you are out A2 Al Karama adds one for meeting Hurricanes unfairly Hotspurs continue their streak .. shame Vortex FC gets their first one, all their oppoments be careful while their manager was not online since April 11th Zenith filed another one to their full house |
22/04/2014 19:30 |
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sicox86 said: vgates said: Ali Agharabi said: vgates said: So I have back to back games this coming weekend against teams who are disqualified in A2. Do I play them with full effort? My advice - use your B team. I always use my B team. I was more wondering because of the chart but also for however our rules work for promotion to C1. At the end of the season, assuming there were more reliable teams wanting into C1 than slots available, do the games against disqualified opponents get manually removed from the standings? Good question. As you can see from the chart, some teams have played over 0% effort, but as it was against a cheat, or against someone who had alerted everyone in advance, no violations are recorded. The violations are only recorded if it was an unlawful use of more than 0% effort. This is how it will work - your promotion to C1 will depend on the number of violations, and not necessarily the number of times you play above 0%. You're free to use more than 0% against Al karama and FC ZENITH without recording any violations. So in essence I should try to win because the effort violation is excused against the disqual teams and currently we do not keep track of wins/losses to exclude the black sheep. So play full eff in order to make it to top of the table? |
22/04/2014 19:44 |
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vgates said: So in essence I should try to win because the effort violation is excused against the disqual teams and currently we do not keep track of wins/losses to exclude the black sheep. So play full eff in order to make it to top of the table? Indeed - treat it as a normal league game and win how you see fit. As you correctly stated, we do not count high effort used against disqualified teams as a violation. You can, however, choose to 'forfeit' the game and play 0% to preserve your team's stamina. I personally discourage this, but it's of course down to you how you play! It sucks that the idea of the PL is to preserve stamina, and then you have to have a weekend of high effort, but I guess it's just bad luck. Still, sorry about that, I must take some responsibility in that I was party to the team entry profiling and registration. Over the course of the season, you may have to play high effort in 38 league games and perhaps 5-7 PL games (plus a cup run), whereas our cheaty friends have to play the same 38 league games, but with 23 PL games at high effort. You'll still be better off as the season comes to a close! Edited by sicox86 22-04-2014 19:59 |
22/04/2014 19:58 |
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Basically we do not exclude black sheeps as it is not possible to rebuild the new table. To have a fair table in the end every team must have equal matches played. To solve black sheeps, you have two options (1) exclude black sheep's matches and deduct points off all teams who got some points from those matches or (2) assume that everybody won against them and add up to 3 points to everybody. None of those options are fair. By applying an option 1 you are not fair against those teams who were able to beat the black sheep even despite their non zero effort. At the same time you give an advantage to all teams who lost to black sheep in the matches when black sheep was using zero effort. With option 2 the logic is the same. That is why the promotion/relegation works by number of points in the table. Teams with disqualification or some violation points go in the first row. Ie. 4 teams from C1 relegate to Ax groups. If there are some teams with violation points they go in the first row, even if they are higher in the table by points. At the same time 2 out of each Ax groups win promotion. But if you get some violation, no matter that you are the first, another team by the order and with clean sheet gets it. Edited by ronnie_sk 22-04-2014 20:41 |
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ronnie_sk said: ...if you get some violation, no matter that you are the first, another team by the order and with clean sheet gets it. This is why we urge everyone in A1 and A2 to play nice! |
22/04/2014 20:52 |
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am very sorry 4 beaking the rule my phone has fult. but i play with zero effort in sunday | 25/04/2014 09:17 |
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Razaaq said: am very sorry 4 beaking the rule my phone has fult. but i play with zero effort in sunday Saturday and Sunday please, Razaaq. Edited by sicox86 25-04-2014 09:54 |
25/04/2014 09:22 |
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I checked your stats for your Sunday match. 3 of your players spent 21-25 stamina points which is way over how other teams are spending (6-7 points). I am checking every team before and after each PL match. Your team was way too active. Check your tactics setup and advanced tactics rules and make sure you use or switch only to the tactics that has zero effort set. All of your players must be below 9 otherwise you get your violation point and subsequent disqualification. Edited by ronnie_sk 25-04-2014 09:29 |
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