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I do not really like this suggestion .I really like the market the way it is. | 19/04/2015 08:20 |
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@vgates said: ForzaJuve! said: @vgates said: liverpool6792 said: Wouldn't strengthen the market, would just make each auction last an extra few mins, would really do nothing to enhance activity. Same people who 'snipe' these guys would still just bid right before anyway. It has annoyed me in the past where someone has come along and just taken a player from my grasp with seconds to go but then again, t's my fault for not having a high enough bid. I've done the same to others. You win some you lose some. Edited by liverpool6792 16-04-2015 21:48 +1 to the response, -1 to the suggestion It wouldn't do anything, except slow down auctions incredibly as A bids $10k over the last bid, auctions extends 2min, B bids $10k over the last bid, auction extends 2min, A bids another $10k, and so on and so on and so on. Instead of a game of bidding your highest amount at the last minute, it becomes a a game of who can out last whom. Rarely someone place just 10k on a next bid. Most people use maximum bid. Using 10k on a bid in a last minute includes the risk that the player before placed maximum bid much higher than 10k....... So by placing 10k by 10k on a player that is currently over 10 million (for example, not to say higher) is silly. Like in any other auction, if current maximum bid is not surpassed, the time is not extended. Edited by ForzaJuve! 17-04-2015 09:29 Edited by ForzaJuve! 17-04-2015 09:33 The entire idea is silly. People don't place only $10k on an auction now at the last minute because there isn't a two minute extension. But if every time there is a new bid in the last minutes the auction is extended, why would I need to place a max bid? I wouldn't because as soon as the next bid were placed the auction would be extended again. I only need exceed the max bid by $10k. Like in any other auction, if current maximum bid is not surpassed, the time is not extended. |
20/04/2015 01:24 |
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ForzaJuve! said: @vgates said: ForzaJuve! said: @vgates said: liverpool6792 said: Wouldn't strengthen the market, would just make each auction last an extra few mins, would really do nothing to enhance activity. Same people who 'snipe' these guys would still just bid right before anyway. It has annoyed me in the past where someone has come along and just taken a player from my grasp with seconds to go but then again, t's my fault for not having a high enough bid. I've done the same to others. You win some you lose some. Edited by liverpool6792 16-04-2015 21:48 +1 to the response, -1 to the suggestion It wouldn't do anything, except slow down auctions incredibly as A bids $10k over the last bid, auctions extends 2min, B bids $10k over the last bid, auction extends 2min, A bids another $10k, and so on and so on and so on. Instead of a game of bidding your highest amount at the last minute, it becomes a a game of who can out last whom. Rarely someone place just 10k on a next bid. Most people use maximum bid. Using 10k on a bid in a last minute includes the risk that the player before placed maximum bid much higher than 10k....... So by placing 10k by 10k on a player that is currently over 10 million (for example, not to say higher) is silly. Like in any other auction, if current maximum bid is not surpassed, the time is not extended. Edited by ForzaJuve! 17-04-2015 09:29 Edited by ForzaJuve! 17-04-2015 09:33 The entire idea is silly. People don't place only $10k on an auction now at the last minute because there isn't a two minute extension. But if every time there is a new bid in the last minutes the auction is extended, why would I need to place a max bid? I wouldn't because as soon as the next bid were placed the auction would be extended again. I only need exceed the max bid by $10k. Like in any other auction, if current maximum bid is not surpassed, the time is not extended. Right! And if the current maximum is increased by $10k, the auction bid time is extended under this suggestion. Now go back and read what I wrote again and I think you will understand my point. |
20/04/2015 15:55 |
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I have read what you wrote, but it seems you do not understand what I am saying. If I have placed maximum bid of lets say 100 millions and the auction is at 75 million, you in 2 minutes would not come close to over bid me with 10k by 10k attempts.....thus, you would use maximum bid. I do not see wars with 10k bids happening........ |
20/04/2015 18:26 |
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ForzaJuve! said: I have read what you wrote, but it seems you do not understand what I am saying. If I have placed maximum bid of lets say 100 millions and the auction is at 75 million, you in 2 minutes would not come close to over bid me with 10k by 10k attempts.....thus, you would use maximum bid. I do not see wars with 10k bids happening........ I've had conversations with a number of managers where less than $1m would have won the auction. Whether $10k on a lower avg player or $10m on a mid 80's player, extending 2min each time max bid is surpassed with result in an extended bidding war. It doesn't take very long to send another bid through. I've done so many many times in the last minute of an auction. And finally, this simply isn't fair to the seller. As a seller, I want a finite end tine, not an extra $1m. The auction is run how all silent auction are run - without you knowing what the other bidders max bid is and with a finite end time. If you want the player, bid high enough that no one can outbid you. That favors the seller. |
21/04/2015 18:22 |
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It favors the seller only if there are more interested players who will bid. I can place a maximum bid of 1 billion and buy a player for 20 millions (hypotetically) Indeed even if I put maximum offer, I will outbid by only 10k considering my max bid is high enough. So with current system, if I am outbided in last minute I can not react, if there would be 2 min. extension, I would be able to react if I wanted to. Lets say cash just droped in from home match that ended conviniently. So now we have minimum 48 hour auction and half an hour means very much to someone? Or do you honestly believe someone would battle with small sums longer than half an hour? What does half an hour mean in 48 hour bid? Nothing What does 1 million, 2 millions not to say more mean to div. 6, div.5 menagers? Alot. |
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@vgates said: If you want the player, bid high enough that no one can outbid you. That favors the seller. Thats is how i do it  If i really want some player i bid ~30% more than his value,if a player worth 500M i put 650M max bid and if i get outbid he wont get that player cheap. I think its best if we can bid only once,its best for seller and fair for buyer. If you can bid just once on player you will think very well about your max bid and it will make market more interesting. I hate those last second bids even if i wont bid a penny more than my max bid and those 10k bids are annoying you get like 50+ messages and your player is at 1M. Need to suggest this. |
22/04/2015 05:28 |
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brezzette said: @vgates said: If you want the player, bid high enough that no one can outbid you. That favors the seller. Thats is how i do it If i really want some player i bid ~30% more than his value,if a player worth 500M i put 650M max bid and if i get outbid he wont get that player cheap. I think its best if we can bid only once,its best for seller and fair for buyer. If you can bid just once on player you will think very well about your max bid and it will make market more interesting. I hate those last second bids even if i wont bid a penny more than my max bid and those 10k bids are annoying you get like 50+ messages and your player is at 1M. Need to suggest this. This is a far better suggestion than the 2min extension. |
22/04/2015 07:45 |
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Brezzette, How's your idea best for the player? Manager A places a bid, and maximum bid. Manager B comes along and doesn't big high enough to win first time.... the Seller's profits are based on Manager B's maximum bid (which was automatically outbid by Manager A). As it is now; Manager A places a bid and a maximum. Manager B canwin the sale by placing a higher bid than Manager A's maximum. The sale is then based on Manager A's maximum bid, the higher bid, than Manager B's, unless of course Manager B always bid far higher than Manager A, but as there's only one chance, it's not guaranteed. On top of that I've seen many bids where a gamer has bid several times, small amounts, and perhaps out of frustration stopped adding little amounts and has added a large amount to his earlier efforts. I've seen two Managers bid on my players, and to ensure they won, one of the Manager's has added a far larger amout at the end. The system as it is now means the Seller can potentially make much more than the system you propose. In auctions there is no fair or unfair. The Manager willing to put up the most money for a player is the winner. It's not even down to the wealthiest Manager either; just whoever cares to pay the most. Perfect, everyone wins... except tight managers who don't care to part with their money!! With regards changing the Auction system... I happen to think the system employed in this game is as close to perfect as it gets. There's plenty of areas that this game could be improved. In terms of the Auction I would say it's excellent. For the five minutes worth of alterations that go into updating this game every season I'd rather see that time spent elsewhere! My only addition would be a system I've seen in another game whereby you had to pay a Golden Ball to place a bid... obviously that game had a far better system for Golden Ball. The system worked beautifully; rewarding people for returning daily, and of course it had far more uses for it's Golden Ball equivalent and actually encouraged people to buy them too (something I would have thought all developers would want). What the developer of that game understood was that Golden Balls shouldn't just be used to gain an advantage over other gamers, but should be required to play the game; thus ensuring GBs were used all the time by everyone. Striker Manager does nothing to encourage GB use... anyway I only mention this because charging a GB to place an Auction bid probably also encouraged people to try and ensure they won auctions. |
22/04/2015 12:43 |
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JensonJet said: Brezzette, How's your idea best for the player? Manager A places a bid, and maximum bid. Manager B comes along and doesn't big high enough to win first time.... the Seller's profits are based on Manager B's maximum bid (which was automatically outbid by Manager A). As it is now; Manager A places a bid and a maximum. Manager B canwin the sale by placing a higher bid than Manager A's maximum. The sale is then based on Manager A's maximum bid, the higher bid, than Manager B's, unless of course Manager B always bid far higher than Manager A, but as there's only one chance, it's not guaranteed. On top of that I've seen many bids where a gamer has bid several times, small amounts, and perhaps out of frustration stopped adding little amounts and has added a large amount to his earlier efforts. I've seen two Managers bid on my players, and to ensure they won, one of the Manager's has added a far larger amout at the end. The system as it is now means the Seller can potentially make much more than the system you propose. In auctions there is no fair or unfair. The Manager willing to put up the most money for a player is the winner. It's not even down to the wealthiest Manager either; just whoever cares to pay the most. Perfect, everyone wins... except tight managers who don't care to part with their money!! With regards changing the Auction system... I happen to think the system employed in this game is as close to perfect as it gets. There's plenty of areas that this game could be improved. In terms of the Auction I would say it's excellent. For the five minutes worth of alterations that go into updating this game every season I'd rather see that time spent elsewhere! My only addition would be a system I've seen in another game whereby you had to pay a Golden Ball to place a bid... obviously that game had a far better system for Golden Ball. The system worked beautifully; rewarding people for returning daily, and of course it had far more uses for it's Golden Ball equivalent and actually encouraged people to buy them too (something I would have thought all developers would want). What the developer of that game understood was that Golden Balls shouldn't just be used to gain an advantage over other gamers, but should be required to play the game; thus ensuring GBs were used all the time by everyone. Striker Manager does nothing to encourage GB use... anyway I only mention this because charging a GB to place an Auction bid probably also encouraged people to try and ensure they won auctions. This is for me but no time to read essay. |
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