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^^ nice response........... 06/11/2011 02:31
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shadow strike said:
Oh right and that shit about hm usning Iniesta and Xavi...Same can be said about Ozil for ronaldo plus he sucks for Argentina because all they use is DFM and not Pastore AND ronaldo is crap aswell for portugal as we saw at World cup qualifying and Euro Championship qualifying, Portugal are better off without ronaldo.



As a portuguese I won't allow you to say that. I don't like Cristiano personality, but he is already a portuguese legend, reaching the final of EURO 2004 (best position ever), and the semi-final of WC 2006, achieving 4th position, the second best ever. At 26 years, he is the 4th best portuguese goalscorer. That's being crap, you say.
More, Portugal never won anything relevant internationally. Nevertheless, Argentina has 2 WC, so we can assume that is easier winning with Argentina than with Portugal.

It's incredible what you read/hear from some people. Cristiano is like Figo? A player like Cristiano was never seen in the football world. With his height, and consequently an higer center of gravity, it's amazing seeing a player with his amazing skill and power. It makes him completely different form Messi, who being as short, has more balance due to his lower gravity center.

Who is better? I definitely can't tell, just happy to live this time, with two player of this category.

I only get slightly mad with many "humble" Barcelona fans, who mostly think they have some kind of moral superiority from everyone else. Certainly, they don't refer how they were beneficiated by one of the biggest refferee of Europe (the famous Stanford Bridge game), or their world-famous theater performances (simulating injuries, pressuring the refferes to book the rivals, including Valdes who can run the all field just to protest. And don't forget the fair-play when they lost the semi-finals against Inter. The world don't forget these facts, as they don't forget the amazing game Barcelona plays.

Just to say that neither one is as good, nor the other is so bad as some want us to believe. Perfect persons, or perfect clubs don't exist. So, enjoy the game without underestimating the rivals. Because the worth of any trophy is always attached to the worth of the opponent.

06/11/2011 11:36
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CSM10 said:
shadow strike said:
Oh right and that shit about hm usning Iniesta and Xavi...Same can be said about Ozil for ronaldo plus he sucks for Argentina because all they use is DFM and not Pastore AND ronaldo is crap aswell for portugal as we saw at World cup qualifying and Euro Championship qualifying, Portugal are better off without ronaldo.



As a portuguese I won't allow you to say that. I don't like Cristiano personality, but he is already a portuguese legend, reaching the final of EURO 2004 (best position ever), and the semi-final of WC 2006, achieving 4th position, the second best ever. At 26 years, he is the 4th best portuguese goalscorer. That's being crap, you say.
More, Portugal never won anything relevant internationally. Nevertheless, Argentina has 2 WC, so we can assume that is easier winning with Argentina than with Portugal.

It's incredible what you read/hear from some people. Cristiano is like Figo? A player like Cristiano was never seen in the football world. With his height, and consequently an higer center of gravity, it's amazing seeing a player with his amazing skill and power. It makes him completely different form Messi, who being as short, has more balance due to his lower gravity center.

Who is better? I definitely can't tell, just happy to live this time, with two player of this category.

I only get slightly mad with many "humble" Barcelona fans, who mostly think they have some kind of moral superiority from everyone else. Certainly, they don't refer how they were beneficiated by one of the biggest refferee of Europe (the famous Stanford Bridge game), or their world-famous theater performances (simulating injuries, pressuring the refferes to book the rivals, including Valdes who can run the all field just to protest. And don't forget the fair-play when they lost the semi-finals against Inter. The world don't forget these facts, as they don't forget the amazing game Barcelona plays.

Just to say that neither one is as good, nor the other is so bad as some want us to believe. Perfect persons, or perfect clubs don't exist. So, enjoy the game without underestimating the rivals. Because the worth of any trophy is always attached to the worth of the opponent.


Obuausly ur twat self diddnt read that my message said WORLD CUP AND EURO QUALLIFYING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And yeah many players have been like ronaldo, gullit and FIGO and esubio.
06/11/2011 13:03
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First lets state that a hormone isnt even a drug.
Second lets define growth hormone.
-Growth Hormone: is a PEPTIDE hormone that stimulates growth, cell reproduction and regeneration in humans and other animals.
The key word here is PEPTIDE. Peptides are short polymers of amino acid monomers linked by peptide bonds, but thats not the important thing what is important is their function. They are similar to proteins and have many function in our body. The most important one:
-Give the human the mature form. (Not give him more abilities, more speed just give the patient his mature form)
Thsi growth hormone is a serious thing that if treated on time can be trated. The growth hormone deficiency can cause many things or example poor bone density and obviously loss of strenght, stamina and musculature. With this im not saying they applied this hormone to make him better at football (+ he already was a supercrack before they applied this treatment thats why FCB agreed to pay his treatment) they applied this hormone to Messi and the other patient to have another lifestile than the one they can have with this disorder. So they applied this hormone to Messi so that he can have a natural development through childhood. In another words they apply this treatment so the patient can grow normally the same way he should gow as if his body produced the hormone. The thing the other dude said about God and creating him that way thats just playing stupid. So bottom line
-Repeat a hormone isnt a drug (Thats a stupid thing to say)
-They applied something we all have in our bodies (The same thing with people with diabetes. They dont produce insuline so they have to apply it. Do they drug too?)
-The hormone helps develop the patient normally. So they can have the same body, strenght, stamina they should have when they are older as if they didnt have the disorder.
06/11/2011 14:29
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CSM10 said:
Certainly, they don't refer how they were beneficiated by one of the biggest refferee of Europe (the famous Stanford Bridge game), or their world-famous theater performances (simulating injuries, pressuring the refferes to book the rivals, including Valdes who can run the all field just to protest. And don't forget the fair-play when they lost the semi-finals against Inter. The world don't forget these facts, as they don't forget the amazing game Barcelona plays.

You want to talk about referees ok let talk about referrees. Lets start with another portuguese Jose Mourinho who likes to talk a lot about referees.
He talked about the scandal of Stamford Bridge as you did but he dont remember his scandal of stamford bridge and the San Siro scandal. Here the are the scandals
1. [URL=][IMG][/IMG][/URL]

Penalty against Chelsea
2. [URL=][IMG][/IMG][/URL]

Another penalty against Chelsea

Now the ones againt FCB

-This Jeremy penalty no one saw just FCB fans right?

[URL=][IMG][/IMG][/URL]

-This Snejider tacle wasnt penalty right. Alves faked it all the way.

[URL=][IMG][/IMG][/URL]

-Or how about this offside

[URL=][IMG][/IMG][/URL]

-How about this kicks aginst Messi. Cambiasso was just checking his pulse right?

[URL=][IMG][/IMG][/URL]

Or this goal anuled that give FCB the pass to the final. The refferee anuled this goal because it touched Toures hand wich clearly did not.

[URL=][IMG][/IMG][/URL]


Its clear that refferees benificiate FCB right? Not Mourinho "The special one" haha

Lets see another example of how refferees help FCB

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Refferee anuled another goal for a unexplicable offside



So refferees beneficiate FCB right?




Edited by Crack1993 06-11-2011 19:20
06/11/2011 15:24
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shadow strike said:
CSM10 said:
shadow strike said:
Oh right and that shit about hm usning Iniesta and Xavi...Same can be said about Ozil for ronaldo plus he sucks for Argentina because all they use is DFM and not Pastore AND ronaldo is crap aswell for portugal as we saw at World cup qualifying and Euro Championship qualifying, Portugal are better off without ronaldo.



As a portuguese I won't allow you to say that. I don't like Cristiano personality, but he is already a portuguese legend, reaching the final of EURO 2004 (best position ever), and the semi-final of WC 2006, achieving 4th position, the second best ever. At 26 years, he is the 4th best portuguese goalscorer. That's being crap, you say.
More, Portugal never won anything relevant internationally. Nevertheless, Argentina has 2 WC, so we can assume that is easier winning with Argentina than with Portugal.

It's incredible what you read/hear from some people. Cristiano is like Figo? A player like Cristiano was never seen in the football world. With his height, and consequently an higer center of gravity, it's amazing seeing a player with his amazing skill and power. It makes him completely different form Messi, who being as short, has more balance due to his lower gravity center.

Who is better? I definitely can't tell, just happy to live this time, with two player of this category.

I only get slightly mad with many "humble" Barcelona fans, who mostly think they have some kind of moral superiority from everyone else. Certainly, they don't refer how they were beneficiated by one of the biggest refferee of Europe (the famous Stanford Bridge game), or their world-famous theater performances (simulating injuries, pressuring the refferes to book the rivals, including Valdes who can run the all field just to protest. And don't forget the fair-play when they lost the semi-finals against Inter. The world don't forget these facts, as they don't forget the amazing game Barcelona plays.

Just to say that neither one is as good, nor the other is so bad as some want us to believe. Perfect persons, or perfect clubs don't exist. So, enjoy the game without underestimating the rivals. Because the worth of any trophy is always attached to the worth of the opponent.


Obuausly ur twat self diddnt read that my message said WORLD CUP AND EURO QUALLIFYING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And yeah many players have been like ronaldo, gullit and FIGO and esubio.



Please respect, because I'm not insulting anyone, just gave my opinion, that is as valid as yours. In both qualifyers he has been injured some games, but he always wanted to help the team. And, if Portugal qualified to the playoff, much of the credits must be given to Cristiano, because with Queiroz we were almost out of the Euro. I was just saying that he was on two teams who made history for the portuguese national side. Call it crap if you want, insult me if you want, but it won't change the facts that he's already a portuguese legend. Others can't say the same

I won't reply to you anymore, since you're not able to mantain a polite discussion. Keep up with that fundamentalism!
06/11/2011 15:49
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+ArmoKidd+ said:
zaboer said:
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did other players take some craps to change the way god made em? i dont think so...


yes actually..

something big like messi did?
GROWING 20CM??


not players, but other human beings, new borns who were born with a disability (how God created them), getting surgery, taking medicine to over power their disability or disease.

but ppl like that dont play football on very high lvl so nobody cares...
06/11/2011 16:10
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their parents care. and actually you never know. Some may actually become pro soccer players 06/11/2011 16:11
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One thing is sure you can't compare both of them they have different ability and are capable of doing some unbeliveable things"s". 06/11/2011 16:12
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@ the barca fan

yes it is a drug
all medicine r drugs...


and barca is always helped by referees

and messi would be a 0 without his drugs
06/11/2011 16:19
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