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Crack1993 said: *Sorry i had some trouble with the images i will eventually upload them CSM10 said: Certainly, they don't refer how they were beneficiated by one of the biggest refferee of Europe (the famous Stanford Bridge game), or their world-famous theater performances (simulating injuries, pressuring the refferes to book the rivals, including Valdes who can run the all field just to protest. And don't forget the fair-play when they lost the semi-finals against Inter. The world don't forget these facts, as they don't forget the amazing game Barcelona plays. You want to talk about referees ok let talk about referrees. Lets start with another portuguese Jose Mourinho who likes to talk a lot about referees. He talked about the scandal of Stamford Bridge as you did but he dont remember his scandal of stamford bridge and the San Siro scandal. Here the are the scandals 1.  Penalty against Chelsea 2.  Another penalty against Chelsea Now the ones againt FCB  This Jeremy penalty no one saw just FCB fans right?  This Snejider tacle wasnt penalty right. Alves faked it all the way.  Or how about this offside  How about this kicks aginst Messi. Cambiasso was just checking his pulse right?  Or this goal anuled that give FCB the pass to the final. The refferee anuled this goal because it touched Toures hand wich clearly did not. Its clear that refferees benificiate FCB right? Not Mourinho "The special one" haha Lets see another example of how refferees help FCB  Refferee anuled another goal for a unexplicable offside So refferees beneficiate FCB right? Edited by Crack1993 06-11-2011 15:27 I did not refer José, since he was no longer Chelsea's manager at that time. Only said that this was probably the most polemic game recently seen in CL, and that game became famous worldwide. The obsession with José is yours, not mine. But it's true that you have a doble standards when evaluating his acts. He has lots of reprochable acts, I'm not excusing anyone, but I never saw a "cule" condemning similar acts from elements of their own team (e.g. Valdés grabbing Mourinho by his throat). That reference of José is a bit sintomatic of an excessive obssession with him. He's a world-class coach, I do not have nothing to add to that. And yes, it's my perception that, in decisive moments (not always), Barcelona was given some help. The game og Stanford Bridge was the one with most mediatic repercussion througout the world, that's why I mentioned it. I do not say it was intentional, but that game filled a lot of newspapers. Barcelona do play a wonderful football, however. I do not question it. My point is that we should relax and enjoy the football, put the hatred aside, and be a little more objective. Everyone has "skeletons" in the closet, so we should not focus the critics on one side, forgetting that " it takes two for tango". Insulting and depreciating others only contribues to a hostile environment, and even takes worth to your victories (your victory has the same worth as your rival: bad rival, irrelevant victory; great rival, great victory). And also, the motivator of my post was the one "enlightened" who said Cristiano was crap for Portugal, wich definitely is not true. Maybe I shouldn't even answered, because the level of his response says it all about that "person". Said that, let's enjoy the game... and by the way, in Spain I support Athletic (Bilbao), so... Madrid is not one of my favourite sides. By the way, today "partidazoooo" in La Catedral... good luck! |
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Please let us close this chapter. Ronaldo is good, messi is good, but due to the perfection of barcelona's player messi hav an edge. But if he was not treated by barca he would not hav be what he was. 13th hat trick for madrid adios ronaldo. Hala madrid. | 06/11/2011 18:10 |
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Im not saying CR is a bad a player i dont like him but he is a terrific player. Every people can like Messi or CR but the problem is that people that say that CR is the best dont give facts or statistics their arguments are pretty stupids (not all but we have a clear example in this topic of what that arguments are). | 06/11/2011 19:30 |
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Crack1993 said: Im not saying CR is a bad a player i dont like him but he is a terrific player. Every people can like Messi or CR but the problem is that people that say that CR is the best dont give facts or statistics their arguments are pretty stupids (not all but we have a clear example in this topic of what that arguments are). ronaldo is pro at every team messi only pro at barca thats enough evidence to show whos the best |
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You again? Well to start Messi hasnt played in another team so we dont know that. CR has played in great teams that played for him because in both teams he is and was the star. People talk about Messi playing bad with Argentina well CR isnt exactly Portugal saver. The past world cup he only scored 1 goal and was the 7th goal against Corea. Messi didnt win the Copa America and CR has to play against Bosnia because they didnt qualify directly. So if we are going to judge Messi for his national team lets judge CR too. I think that is pretty unfair to judge a player for his matches in the national team considering the football we played in this days. 40 years ago football was more simple without too many tactics, without technology without many things. In this time players have to travel long distances to play matches with their national teams. They only get 2 trainings with their teams and its difficult to play well under that circusntances. |
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Crack1993 said: You again? Well to start Messi hasnt played in another team so we dont know that. CR has played in great teams that played for him because in both teams he is and was the star. People talk about Messi playing bad with Argentina well CR isnt exactly Portugal saver. The past world cup he only scored 1 goal and was the 7th goal against Corea. Messi didnt win the Copa America and CR has to play against Bosnia because they didnt qualify directly. So if we are going to judge Messi for his national team lets judge CR too. I think that is pretty unfair to judge a player for his matches in the national team considering the football we played in this days. 40 years ago football was more simple without too many tactics, without technology without many things. In this time players have to travel long distances to play matches with their national teams. They only get 2 trainings with their teams and its difficult to play well under that circusntances. lol ronaldo bad with portugal? xD bad is getting pwned with 4-0 by germany xD argentina has kinda 1 of the best national teams in the world lol even better than spain for me and portugal is just crap compared to brasil or argentina or spain etc... but still ronaldo makes portugal shine! while messi craps on argentina xD |
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1- Portugal isnt really a contender to win any major cups such as euro cup, fifa world cup.. they are just a contender to qualify to next round. 2- Germany is actually a really strong team, so really not their fault lossing that badly. If portugal lost to lets say a bad team like japan or china then that a pwn |
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Yes Argentina has a superteam. Gago > Xavi Cambiasso > Iniesta Demichelis > Pique Lavezzi > Silva Burdisso > Puyol Banega > Xabi Alonso (Ironic mode on) These players all where on the starting line-up of Argentina last Copa America. To say that Argentina has a better team than spain. Im sorry but CR doesnt shine with Portugal. + Portugal has a good team similar to Argentina. |
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zaboer said: Crack1993 said: Im not saying CR is a bad a player i dont like him but he is a terrific player. Every people can like Messi or CR but the problem is that people that say that CR is the best dont give facts or statistics their arguments are pretty stupids (not all but we have a clear example in this topic of what that arguments are). ronaldo is pro at every team messi only pro at barca thats enough evidence to show whos the best fucks sake ronaldo is shit for portugal now! |
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zaboer said: Crack1993 said: You again? Well to start Messi hasnt played in another team so we dont know that. CR has played in great teams that played for him because in both teams he is and was the star. People talk about Messi playing bad with Argentina well CR isnt exactly Portugal saver. The past world cup he only scored 1 goal and was the 7th goal against Corea. Messi didnt win the Copa America and CR has to play against Bosnia because they didnt qualify directly. So if we are going to judge Messi for his national team lets judge CR too. I think that is pretty unfair to judge a player for his matches in the national team considering the football we played in this days. 40 years ago football was more simple without too many tactics, without technology without many things. In this time players have to travel long distances to play matches with their national teams. They only get 2 trainings with their teams and its difficult to play well under that circusntances. lol ronaldo bad with portugal? xD bad is getting pwned with 4-0 by germany xD argentina has kinda 1 of the best national teams in the world lol even better than spain for me and portugal is just crap compared to brasil or argentina or spain etc... but still ronaldo makes portugal shine! while messi craps on argentina xD hmmmmm at least we made it farther then u, dont have to go through play off every year and Ronaldo did not help during world cup quallifying ZERO GOALS, his portugal have to go through a playoff and he sucked at euro 2008. Im pretty sure thats shit for ur contry. |
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