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I am going to try for Div 3. I may get relegated but that will depend on which group I land in and what players I can pick up at the beginning of the season no team market. Even if I promote expecting relegation, I'll earn more in Div 3 which I can sock away. I already have the accessories cost set aside and cost to upgrade stadium to 120k. My goal this season was to avoid relegation to Div 5 as this was my first season in Div 4, so if I somehow manage to promote to Div 3 and relegate after next season, I won't feel too bad. Also, I'll be out of the country on vacation with limited net access for a few weeks in July - so that will hurt my chances for promotion from Div 4 to 3 next season anyway. May as well promote knowing relegation and suffer the limited ability to study opponents in Div 3 than stay in Div 4 with limited ability to study opponents.... |
07/06/2014 19:38 |
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I agree with vgates - I think promotion, if available, is preferable to staying put. It was a positive learning curve for me in Div 3 last season, and although I came straight back down the players I bought with the extra cash made my team so much stronger. Tactically was my problem - if I'd started the season as I ended I would easily have been safe. I can't really put a price on this. Paying for the accessories on a Div 4 budget sucks, but what else would I spend the cash on? A better squad? Already paid for by the season in Div 3. Plus, you can never be sure of promotion next season anyway - you never know who will go down (teams like me who narrowly missed the grade) or you never know who will come up (plucky, intelligent fighters like vgates). Hope this helps. Good luck everyone. Edited by sicox86 07-06-2014 20:09 |
07/06/2014 20:07 |
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How about the price of your team? If I loose most of the games in div3, will it influence motivation/morale/training progress of my team? I think that players progress slower when they loose too many matches? Is it like this? If so, every 3-5 points per player per season (due to the slower training progress) may cost much more than the stadium income increase. Re experience, I believe that the one can get the same experience here, facing other div3,4,5 teams. |
07/06/2014 20:52 |
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ronnie_sk said: How about the price of your team? If I loose most of the games in div3, will it influence motivation/morale/training progress of my team? I think that players progress slower when they loose too many matches? Is it like this? If so, every 3-5 points per player per season (due to the slower training progress) may cost much more than the stadium income increase. Re experience, I believe that the one can get the same experience here, facing other div3,4,5 teams. I don't think the player experience changes much from one Div to the next. You are correct that motivation will decrease with the loss for the training session following the loss. But if your Div 4 team is similar to mine, most of my senior players are not very high prog so they are not increasing that much anyway - they are fine for Div 4, maybe good enough to avoid relegation in Div 3, but ultimately won't be trained up to a Div 3 team but sold and replaced. |
07/06/2014 20:57 |
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I buy only 90+ prog players and have 99 coaches. Progressing players is crucial for me. Although I am curious about trying div3, I am still not quite convinced about the timing of the promotion now (looking from the long term perspective). | 07/06/2014 21:02 |
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ronnie_sk said: I buy only 90+ prog players and have 99 coaches. Progressing players is crucial for me. Although I am curious about trying div3, I am still not quite convinced about the timing of the promotion now (looking from the long term perspective). I worry less about the prog of the player and more about value for money - does the player have the stats I am looking for to suit my current formation and league? If so, I buy the player even though he may not progress much more and save the money. I think the bigger question in Div 3 is formation and whether my current formation can withstand Div 3 teams. |
07/06/2014 21:07 |
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Looking at Kylle's team and tactics and linking it to his relegation from div3, I assume that div3 is not that easy. | 07/06/2014 21:10 |
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ronnie_sk said: Looking at Kylle's team and tactics and linking it to his relegation from div3, I assume that div3 is not that easy. I agree, however, I think formation will play as big a role in avoiding relegation as overall team averages. In my league, most of the 8 teams who relegated from Div 3 have/had teams that were stronger than mine. But I am sitting in 3rd place... |
07/06/2014 21:16 |
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Agree. Tactics becomes the more important the higher div you are in. The key to success will be to ultimatively beat all the teams who get promoted from other div4 groups together with you at that season. Edited by ronnie_sk 07-06-2014 21:47 |
07/06/2014 21:46 |
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A lot of my current team and tactics are thanks to a spell in Div 3. My team was a lot worse then and my tactics have benefited hugely from that experience. I seriously doubt that the difference between winning all your games and losing all your games will be 3-5avg points per player, especially when you start getting to 80avg players. It's, what 108% motivation for a starter if I win and 103% if I lose, given Div 3 accessories? Something like that anyway, I will let you know when I lose  For that 5% to be even 3avg points you would need to be expecting a handful of your starting players to improve by 60avg in a normal, winning season.I also don't think the tactical quality in this PL is as good as Div 3. This is surely evident from looking at a rough correlation of how even similarly-rated squads are spread throughout C1 (given the very little cheating that has occurred in this group). Also, and I am not sure, but players behave differently at 0%, even when the opposition is also on 0%. I believe that a gameplan good for the usual 80% effort will not work for 0%, but thats just a very recent hypothesis I am working on. Last season, ALL of the teams I faced played in some way smart. It may have been thuggish, but still smart. I doubt there were any solely mobile users, unlike we see in Div 4. Although, as vgates is getting at, not every Div 3 side is better than every Div 4 side, that will be the general rule, even tactically. The widening availability of 80+avg players over the last few seasons has meant that even Ali (no offense him, he is a GREAT trainer) has players into their mid-80's in Div 5. So what's the difference, then, between a Div 2 side and a top Div 4 side? A lot of it may be down to players' experience points, but a greater deal must surely be down to setup. In my opinion, being in Div 3 was like going to school - it was a lesson I did not always appreciate, but the overall experience was ultimately worthwhile. I would also consider the financial gap - currently 4m per home game between my Div 4 side here on the international server and my Div 3 side on the Brazil server. Both teams have around the same ranking, and both have a 156k stadium in a very similar configuration. With this cash I could certainly Edited by sicox86 07-06-2014 23:00 |
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