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imo it really is almost as simple as that. bans are brought in. your manager says to you - no diving. and we'll have none of this contact = a foul bs  |
29/10/2012 22:28 |
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Johnny Blaze said: Couldnt agree more Kopp. Its amazing that goal line technology is still not in place. Yes, I understand that some poor leagues couldnt afford this but thats when FIFAs money should kick in. Hell even make the big leagues (a.k.a. EPL, La liga, etc...) pay for this with their billions. Here in the states we have instant replay to help the refs with the NFL calls (which still doesnt help all the time) but with the speed of the game...(see Kopps points). I realize this wouldnt work in english football, but maybe some form could. Some of those smart science, techy people working on cures for cancer could come up with some sort of system with sensors in the ball and on each player to solve the offside dilemma. Then they could make tons of money in turn to go back and help find a cure for real problems like cancer. Just sayin. we have video refs in pretty much all other sports. both rugby codes, tennis, cricket, athletics the lot. none of the arguments against it's introduction into football stack up. i think fifa are against video technology because they are the most corrupt bunch of scum in sport & probably up to their ears in match fixing & spread betting scams  |
29/10/2012 22:34 |
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Johnny Blaze said: Some of those smart science, techy people working on cures for cancer could come up with some sort of system with sensors in the ball and on each player to solve the offside dilemma. Then they could make tons of money in turn to go back and help find a cure for real problems like cancer. Just sayin. Not discounting it's possibility but technology for offside calls will be too difficult - ask the SM devs I will prefer a situation the referee waits to watch a replay if he's not sure before deciding on offside. Though I know many are against it, it works fine in tennis. |
29/10/2012 22:35 |
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@FC Ubuntu said: Johnny Blaze said: Some of those smart science, techy people working on cures for cancer could come up with some sort of system with sensors in the ball and on each player to solve the offside dilemma. Then they could make tons of money in turn to go back and help find a cure for real problems like cancer. Just sayin. Not discounting it's possibility but technology for offside calls will be too difficult - ask the SM devs I will prefer a situation the referee waits to watch a replay if he's not sure before deciding on offside. Though I know many are against it, it works fine in tennis. Slow mo cameras would be able to show everything. It might take awhile to work out the kinks but having an official watching replays up in a booth would help. Just let the play, play out and have a review if a goal is scored. The game stops at that point anyway. Maybe could work. Edited by Johnny Blaze 29-10-2012 22:43 |
29/10/2012 22:43 |
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Johnny Blaze said: Slow mo cameras would be able to show everything. It might take awhile to work on the kinks but having an official watching replays up in a booth would help. Just let the play, play out and have a review if a goal is scored. The game stops at that point anyway. Maybe could work. there is absolutely no investment needed. the replays are already viewed by managers at the side of the pitch on tablets etc. about 4 feet away from them is a 4th official. the stop/start argument is also moot. games stop for a minute every time there's a contentious decision anyway, while players surround the ref to have a go at him. i have a firm opinion about this. i watch alot less top tier football than i did growing up because of the changes in the english game. |
29/10/2012 22:53 |
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Replays don't give 100% accuracy, but as proved in the sports that use it, it helps. Even though Liverpool were denied a clear winner by a poor linesman call at the weekend, I don't really blame him. Probably should have got it right, but it happens so quickly. But I knew what both managers were going to say after the match; Rodgers "Decisions cost us", Moyes "Decision cost us". Neither managed to blame their players for missing chances and poor defending. So they blame the ref/linesmen instead, which influences the fans to also blame them. It's a blame deflection game that every manager uses. I don't think instant video replays are for football (apart from goal line technology which would be very quick) when it comes to diving or offsides. Some bad calls we just have to accept to keep it a fast game. There are other ways to improve those aspects of the game. Edited by Koppington 29-10-2012 22:59 |
29/10/2012 22:56 |
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Koppington said: I don't think video replays are for football (apart from goal line technology which would be very quick) when it comes to diving or offsides. Some bad calls we just have to accept. i find that point of view really interesting. i think offside calls, bad fouls, last man tackles and gk fouls could all be accurately judged by a video ref. diving i agree, would have to be judged by a seperate panel post match. i would like to see a game where we are talking about the skill rather than the controversy. but i accept i'm in the vast minority  |
29/10/2012 23:02 |
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aleph44 said: i find that point of view really interesting. i think offside calls, bad fouls, last man tackles and gk fouls could all be accurately judged by a video ref. diving i agree, would have to be judged by a seperate panel post match. i would like to see a game where we are talking about the skill rather than the controversy. but i accept i'm in the vast minority It depends on the situations the video ref comes in. It will be very nice if all decisions are got right but doing that with replays could slow the game and make it lose it explosiveness. However, I think a referee should be allowed to consult another official, who has watched the replay, wherever he is in doubt. |
29/10/2012 23:07 |
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i agree it has to be used sparingly. probably just for game changing decisions, not just every foul & tackle. or a similar system to tennis where each team has a number of challenges to the refs decision. |
29/10/2012 23:23 |
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i didnt read every comment, but if this has to do with football and replay's, refs dont use it because it is time consuming. They just cant stop the clock, and they cant add like 10 mins of extra time. But if this is about something else, my bad. |
29/10/2012 23:25 |
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