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Just watched several games on the es server. The new sim is infinitely better. Defenders tackle better when placed well, strikers score if the defenders let them through. One result in div 6 was 15-0 as it should be when the defense sucks and offense doesn't. The div 1 results looked similar to ours, with the notable exception of a 5-5 result. Shots on goal were all like 20/23 in div 1, as they should be.

In other words, the sim does not make OT easy, and fixes BOTH stupid strikers AND slow defenders.

No wonder es server voted nearly unanimously for the new sim with 43 pages of comments
27/01/2013 23:25
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i'll prefer to "dont change anything to current sim" .
the reasons are :
arrghh .. i'm too lazy to write the reasons here, moreover the devs wont read it

Edited by nve 28-01-2013 02:31
28/01/2013 02:31
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nve said:
i'll prefer to "dont change anything to current sim" .
the reasons are :
arrghh .. i'm too lazy to write the reasons here, moreover the devs wont read it

Edited by nve 28-01-2013 02:31


hahaha
28/01/2013 02:43
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CelloG said:

In other words, the sim does not make OT easy, and fixes BOTH stupid strikers AND slow defenders.



sounds so promising. fingers crossed.
28/01/2013 09:06
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You don't have to take my word for it. Here are links to games.

Note: you'll need to view these in a browser where you are not logged in, either an incognito window or a different browser, otherwise they'll redirect to the en server.

div 6:
http://es3.strikermanager.com/partido.php?id=52154980&accion=simul 15-0
http://es3.strikermanager.com/partido.php?id=52154986&accion=simul 4-3
http://es3.strikermanager.com/partido.php?id=52148904&accion=simul 0-0

div. 5:
http://es3.strikermanager.com/partido.php?id=51768914&accion=simul 3-7
http://es3.strikermanager.com/partido.php?id=51768900&accion=simul 4-4
http://es3.strikermanager.com/partido.php?id=51771940&accion=simul 4-0
http://es3.strikermanager.com/partido.php?id=51771956&accion=simul 7-0

div. 4:
http://es3.strikermanager.com/partido.php?id=51719514&accion=simul 8-2
http://es3.strikermanager.com/partido.php?id=51721028&accion=simul 3-3
http://es3.strikermanager.com/partido.php?id=51724064&accion=simul 10-2

div. 3:
http://es3.strikermanager.com/partido.php?id=51707340&accion=simul 10-0
http://es3.strikermanager.com/partido.php?id=51707348&accion=simul 4-4
http://es3.strikermanager.com/partido.php?id=51708102&accion=simul 4-6

div. 2:
http://es3.strikermanager.com/partido.php?id=51704306&accion=simul 5-5
http://es3.strikermanager.com/partido.php?id=51705824&accion=simul 8-1
http://es3.strikermanager.com/partido.php?id=51706584&accion=simul 2-2 (lowest scoreline in div. 2, featuring -ANCO-)

div. 1:
http://es3.strikermanager.com/partido.php?id=51703542&accion=simul 7-3 (featuring a 97 average CF!)
http://es3.strikermanager.com/partido.php?id=51703546&accion=simul 4-2 (lowest scoreline in div. 1)
http://es3.strikermanager.com/partido.php?id=51703550&accion=simul 5-5
28/01/2013 14:45
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But this goals are much doesnt look realistic this can never happen in real life 28/01/2013 14:49
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Juhulius said:
But this goals are much doesnt look realistic this can never happen in real life


so what. are you saying you are happy with the current sim?

28/01/2013 15:03
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aleph44 said:
Juhulius said:
But this goals are much doesnt look realistic this can never happen in real life


so what. are you saying you are happy with the current sim?


Nah.. just saying my opinion
28/01/2013 15:08
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Juhulius said:
But this goals are much doesnt look realistic this can never happen in real life


Soccer players are also usually taller than 5 inches, and 5 one-touch passes in a row at high speed never actually happens either. The point is not whether the game is perfect, it is whether the game is more realistic in that when a shot is taken, it is almost always towards the goal, and very rarely sideways. About 50% of shots in the current sim go sideways, even with amazing strikers.

In the new sim, a 97 CF with 5 net breaker skills has 8/9 shots on target and 4 goals, as it should be. With the current sim, terrible strikers actually have better stats than great strikers, and all of them shoot between 50-60% on target. Teams that generate a lot of breakaways never score and their opponents score on almost every shot. GKs occasionally launch the ball into their own goal, penalty kicks generate offsides calls, defenders are artificially slowed down and almost never complete a tackle, and the game artificially slows down goal scoring when you've scored 5 goals, increasing the odds of a comeback in a game that is completely one-sided.

The new sim allows offside trap, but does not preference it. It translates excellent opportunities into goals. You may notice that in most of those games, the first shot is the first goal! Another thing I noticed in many of the draws is that the first team to score often puts away a few more before the other side comes back. It makes games more interesting to watch too.

Ultimately, that has been my biggest problem over the past year: watching the game is so much less enjoyable than it was late 2011. The new sim is actually more enjoyable to watch because defenders are more dynamic, attacking strikes are more realistic (sometimes accurate, sometimes inaccurate, more goals scored when they are on target, more on-target shots). I even noticed that the kinds of tackles have been greatly expanded. Some cause the ball to shoot a long way, some leave the ball in place, and some even cause it to flip up into the air. I haven't seen a single offside penalty, free kick out of bounds, disappearing wall on a substitution, or wormhole bug. This doesn't mean there aren't any, but it's a very promising start, because one does not need to look further than 4 or 5 games in the en server to find one of those bugs.
28/01/2013 15:23
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the sooner this gets implemented the better.

no offence to Juhulius, but I've always said - if you are after realism you're playing the wrong footy management game
28/01/2013 16:15
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