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Should certain tactics, such as these, be susceptible to punishment as per the exploitation of game bugs rule?
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wiveliscombe afc said:
yeah vgates i too do fear for direction of sm2 in the way they will force us to buy gbs

but its only alpha - we wont see a representation of sm2 until they start the eta testing - this is normal

beta isnt about having fun playing a brand new game

imo its about trying to get ahead start when game goes live after the beta reset

i would expect many more resets in alpha and maybe 1 once beta starts but they will need to beta test several consequative seasons in beta so i dought they will reset once beta starts - its just a process we gotta get through

so stick with alpha people - mind u dont bother sending in bug reports as they dont read english /o\



Maybe someone can ask on the spanish server what happened to the GB's?
04/04/2014 05:26
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vgates said:
wiveliscombe afc said:
yeah vgates i too do fear for direction of sm2 in the way they will force us to buy gbs

but its only alpha - we wont see a representation of sm2 until they start the eta testing - this is normal

beta isnt about having fun playing a brand new game

imo its about trying to get ahead start when game goes live after the beta reset

i would expect many more resets in alpha and maybe 1 once beta starts but they will need to beta test several consequative seasons in beta so i dought they will reset once beta starts - its just a process we gotta get through

so stick with alpha people - mind u dont bother sending in bug reports as they dont read english /o\



Maybe someone can ask on the spanish server what happened to the GB's?


It s only a try version, same as before we go tons of free GB now they didnt give us, but no worry you will get your GB when the final version is ready
04/04/2014 05:49
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SuTaGar said:

Put a foward in the opponent's goal, and you'll beat that tactic every time.

Devs won't do anything to punish this formation because it's legal and isn't unbeatable.
There are more formations whose take advantage of bugs and it's nearly impossible to avoid it because this sim has a lot

Edited by SuTaGar 03-04-2014 11:30


The formation I have devised is still not as good as the one used by the original guy, but I think its a good idea to test it... Why dont you ping me for a friendly once you are out of the cup and we can test this theory out.
04/04/2014 06:48
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LeNick said:
Feel free to send it to my inbox spade


LeNick (and the few others who have messaged me for the formation),

I Would love to send it, but let me try Sutaar's suggestion and see if we can create a formation to beat it... i would give that out to everyone.
04/04/2014 06:54
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@illex said:

I totally get your point, and in the interest of full disclosure I was the one who pointed it out to bowsey and he edited it (I didn't want to go and edit it without someone else also seeing it). The thing is I don't think even that would get the developers attention. You're right, this server has pretty much reached the end for them. We haven't seen any updates in at least 2 seasons (and it might be 3 at this point) and I don't expect we'll see any more. I think there are ways to beat this formation, and this formation relies on you being able to take a 1-2 goal lead anyways, so you have to be a little better than your opponent at least.

I don't think spreading the problem is the solution since I'm 99% certain devs won't bother with this. Figuring out the formation that totally breaks this formation is probably the solution. If everyone has it in their arsenal then, people will realize that it might not be a valid formation to pull out on a regular basis.


Illex, firstly i want to clarify, that i have nothing against the @'s. They are doing a thankless job and quite literally dont have much to say apart from the quotes in the rule book.

My frustration, and probably yours too, is towards the devs, who just dismissed it as a legal tactic. Some genius might be able to break it, but if you have seen the original formation, its pretty difficult for normal players like me to get their heads around it, i still get dizzy when i see a mathematical equation. Even if i had a 80+ avg team against his 60avg, I would not be able to tickle his gk's ribs against his formation (not that i fancy doing that, dont even know why i used that analogy, i should stop drinking this green tea).

So the point being, of anyone can comeup with the solution... great. But if not, then the newbies and seasoned players who try and spend good amount of time creating their squads and tactics, will be highly demoralized.

The question is what now? I am going to take your suggestion, and give it a try to create a solution. Atleast give one last chance.
04/04/2014 07:03
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Lusoccer18 said:
I have not heard anyone who really likes the game and enjoys it with any regularity. I have quit it twice now.



I am not sure i agree, I know this game can be frustrating at times, but a lot of us like it with its limitations... esp when devs did something to improve it. And maybe thats why few of us keep on venting frustrations as well as try to start a conversation for change. If we were really not enjoying it, we would have quit a long back.



Edited by Spade 04-04-2014 07:32
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I think i have a suggestion. As we all know he changes to that scrappy formation when leading i suggest we also create a formation when down by surrounding his 18 yard box with player of great spead. By placing a player right in front of his gk and also by the sides and also close the defenders. And go 100 effort. 04/04/2014 08:14
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D Boss said:
I think i have a suggestion. As we all know he changes to that scrappy formation when leading i suggest we also create a formation when down by surrounding his 18 yard box with player of great spead. By placing a player right in front of his gk and also by the sides and also close the defenders. And go 100 effort.


Shhot me friendly once you are out of the cup, Lets test your formation.
04/04/2014 12:06
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so let me get this straight some manager has found how to replecate that annoying bug we see sometimes where 2 players pass 1-2's indefinitely, whitch he can implement if he goes ahead

if so then wow this truely sux - i am all for taking advantage of advanced tactics as its available to all

but to have to watch a game u 1-0 down and this manager just passing pointlessly betwix 2 players mega sux


so the counter to this manager must be to start off with 100% effort = never let him get in lead


he will also have a bad name among us managers and we can legitimately shun him in all direct purchases, PL entry, loans etc...
he wont get past div3 ( i gather he in div4 now?) - can someone message me as to who this ruin er of peoples entertainment is

cheers - sorry for hyjacking thread re sm2 earlier, back on track now :S
04/04/2014 12:37
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Spade said:
SuTaGar said:

Put a foward in the opponent's goal, and you'll beat that tactic every time.

Devs won't do anything to punish this formation because it's legal and isn't unbeatable.
There are more formations whose take advantage of bugs and it's nearly impossible to avoid it because this sim has a lot

Edited by SuTaGar 03-04-2014 11:30


The formation I have devised is still not as good as the one used by the original guy, but I think its a good idea to test it... Why dont you ping me for a friendly once you are out of the cup and we can test this theory out.

Ok
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