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Should certain tactics, such as these, be susceptible to punishment as per the exploitation of game bugs rule?
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Spade said: as much as i dont like editing posts i really dont want this formation to spread Spade, we all feel the devs are dicks for ignoring this but the last thing we want is the whole of SM to use this bullshit tactic If you still want to go ahead with posting the formation for all to see i will send you a message of this post prior to my edit and you can post it again and i will not do anything  Edited by @bowsey1986 02-04-2014 15:43 Dear @Bowsey, I did this for a reason and that is to get the devs attention; that their daft ignorance will eventually kill this game. In past 10 pages, apart from venting frustration, many of us pleaded the devs, gave logical arguments and even asked them & @'s to simply send a note to those who use this formation that it is in bad taste (ironically just like the one you sent me), so this should stop. But all we got is that this is 'Legal' and @'s have been told not to do anything about it. At first I tried creating this formation and trying to beat it (with the help of a ex player who used to be very active) but then it was a herculean task and more we watched the matches of the guy, more we realized that to beat it, lady luck has to smile at you with a wider smile than Julia Roberts. Then, the next best thing to do is to beat him using his his own tools. That's where we created this formation. Reason to share is simple, I literally want a div4/5 team to knock out a div 1/2 or an @ using this formation in SC. Cause only if they create a little hulla, maybe the devs will listen. And if the devs still dont listen (as you would probably counter argue), then perhaps, this game has reached the end as they are just interested in the new version anyways. |
03/04/2014 07:27 |
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Spade said: Spade said: as much as i dont like editing posts i really dont want this formation to spread Spade, we all feel the devs are dicks for ignoring this but the last thing we want is the whole of SM to use this bullshit tactic If you still want to go ahead with posting the formation for all to see i will send you a message of this post prior to my edit and you can post it again and i will not do anything Edited by @bowsey1986 02-04-2014 15:43 Dear @Bowsey, I did this for a reason and that is to get the devs attention; that their daft ignorance will eventually kill this game. In past 10 pages, apart from venting frustration, many of us pleaded the devs, gave logical arguments and even asked them & @'s to simply send a note to those who use this formation that it is in bad taste (ironically just like the one you sent me), so this should stop. But all we got is that this is 'Legal' and @'s have been told not to do anything about it. At first I tried creating this formation and trying to beat it (with the help of a ex player who used to be very active) but then it was a herculean task and more we watched the matches of the guy, more we realized that to beat it, lady luck has to smile at you with a wider smile than Julia Roberts. Then, the next best thing to do is to beat him using his his own tools. That's where we created this formation. Reason to share is simple, I literally want a div4/5 team to knock out a div 1/2 or an @ using this formation in SC. Cause only if they create a little hulla, maybe the devs will listen. And if the devs still dont listen (as you would probably counter argue), then perhaps, this game has reached the end as they are just interested in the new version anyways. Spade, I think you can accomplish this in a more 'surgical' manner; for example, by sharing the formation with a few Div 4/5 managers as they're about to play against a Div 1/2 team or an @ in the SC. This way you can create your hulla but without making the info so widespread. (Julia Roberts... that was a good one  ) |
03/04/2014 08:25 |
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Spade said: Spade said: as much as i dont like editing posts i really dont want this formation to spread Spade, we all feel the devs are dicks for ignoring this but the last thing we want is the whole of SM to use this bullshit tactic If you still want to go ahead with posting the formation for all to see i will send you a message of this post prior to my edit and you can post it again and i will not do anything Edited by @bowsey1986 02-04-2014 15:43 Dear @Bowsey, I did this for a reason and that is to get the devs attention; that their daft ignorance will eventually kill this game. In past 10 pages, apart from venting frustration, many of us pleaded the devs, gave logical arguments and even asked them & @'s to simply send a note to those who use this formation that it is in bad taste (ironically just like the one you sent me), so this should stop. But all we got is that this is 'Legal' and @'s have been told not to do anything about it. At first I tried creating this formation and trying to beat it (with the help of a ex player who used to be very active) but then it was a herculean task and more we watched the matches of the guy, more we realized that to beat it, lady luck has to smile at you with a wider smile than Julia Roberts. Then, the next best thing to do is to beat him using his his own tools. That's where we created this formation. Reason to share is simple, I literally want a div4/5 team to knock out a div 1/2 or an @ using this formation in SC. Cause only if they create a little hulla, maybe the devs will listen. And if the devs still dont listen (as you would probably counter argue), then perhaps, this game has reached the end as they are just interested in the new version anyways. Put a foward in the opponent's goal, and you'll beat that tactic every time. Devs won't do anything to punish this formation because it's legal and isn't unbeatable. There are more formations whose take advantage of bugs and it's nearly impossible to avoid it because this sim has a lot Edited by SuTaGar 03-04-2014 11:30 |
03/04/2014 11:13 |
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Feel free to send it to my inbox spade |
03/04/2014 14:20 |
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Spade said: At first I tried creating this formation and trying to beat it (with the help of a ex player who used to be very active) but then it was a herculean task and more we watched the matches of the guy, more we realized that to beat it, lady luck has to smile at you with a wider smile than Julia Roberts. Then, the next best thing to do is to beat him using his his own tools. That's where we created this formation. Reason to share is simple, I literally want a div4/5 team to knock out a div 1/2 or an @ using this formation in SC. Cause only if they create a little hulla, maybe the devs will listen. And if the devs still dont listen (as you would probably counter argue), then perhaps, this game has reached the end as they are just interested in the new version anyways. I totally get your point, and in the interest of full disclosure I was the one who pointed it out to bowsey and he edited it (I didn't want to go and edit it without someone else also seeing it). The thing is I don't think even that would get the developers attention. You're right, this server has pretty much reached the end for them. We haven't seen any updates in at least 2 seasons (and it might be 3 at this point) and I don't expect we'll see any more. I think there are ways to beat this formation, and this formation relies on you being able to take a 1-2 goal lead anyways, so you have to be a little better than your opponent at least. I don't think spreading the problem is the solution since I'm 99% certain devs won't bother with this. Figuring out the formation that totally breaks this formation is probably the solution. If everyone has it in their arsenal then, people will realize that it might not be a valid formation to pull out on a regular basis. |
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I think the other way to get the attention of the Devs is for Alpha to completely fail. I have not heard anyone who really likes the game and enjoys it with any regularity. I have quit it twice now. If they find that the new server, though pretty misses what we like most about this game then They might give this more attention. They whole purpose of the new server is to use Gbs. Which costs money. They realized some time ago they did not build in enough "buying" options in this game. To this point, if they could find a way to help the Nigerians, then they would have a wind-fall in a moment into this game. |
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interesting thread my 2pense worth: match engines can be highly complex programming sports interactive have spent over 10 years developing theirs and it still sux - they made football manager mmo version - 10k managers tested it and they had 5 devs dedicated to the sim full time + all the volunteers sm have about 10% of the complexity - it is a basic sim that requires little processing so is bound to be full of holes this game is not about the sim that is just a tiny bit of fun - all the devs could do is make it fair for all (level playing field) the more complex u make a system the more bugs u gonna create |
03/04/2014 15:38 |
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wiveliscombe afc said: interesting thread my 2pense worth: match engines can be highly complex programming sports interactive have spent over 10 years developing theirs and it still sux - they made football manager mmo version - 10k managers tested it and they had 5 devs dedicated to the sim full time + all the volunteers sm have about 10% of the complexity - it is a basic sim that requires little processing so is bound to be full of holes this game is not about the sim that is just a tiny bit of fun - all the devs could do is make it fair for all (level playing field) the more complex u make a system the more bugs u gonna create +1 |
03/04/2014 15:45 |
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Lusoccer18 said: I think the other way to get the attention of the Devs is for Alpha to completely fail. I have not heard anyone who really likes the game and enjoys it with any regularity. I have quit it twice now. If they find that the new server, though pretty misses what we like most about this game then They might give this more attention. They whole purpose of the new server is to use Gbs. Which costs money. They realized some time ago they did not build in enough "buying" options in this game. To this point, if they could find a way to help the Nigerians, then they would have a wind-fall in a moment into this game. +1 I randomly check in on Alpha. I won't be playing it at this point for many reasons, not the least of which is that when they reset everyone to start with the market, all of my GB's disappeared. And the last time I checked, no one had responded to my thread in the bug report. What happened to "buy GB's in SM and they will be matched in SM2?" |
03/04/2014 22:28 |
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yeah vgates i too do fear for direction of sm2 in the way they will force us to buy gbs but its only alpha - we wont see a representation of sm2 until they start the eta testing - this is normal beta isnt about having fun playing a brand new game imo its about trying to get ahead start when game goes live after the beta reset i would expect many more resets in alpha and maybe 1 once beta starts but they will need to beta test several consequative seasons in beta so i dought they will reset once beta starts - its just a process we gotta get through so stick with alpha people - mind u dont bother sending in bug reports as they dont read english /o\ |
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