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Should certain tactics, such as these, be susceptible to punishment as per the exploitation of game bugs rule?
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Lusoccer18 said: Se7enTOP said: Spade said: Se7enTOP said: Bug Tactics are legal and I love them  LOL. Troll. Quite a serious topic for you to be trying to troll, but welcome nevertheless. We all should use a joke once in a while. I do not try to be a Troll ... I like the Bug Tactic, and is as legal as other formations. If that formation is punished, we should punish the 99% of the formations You are right. This advanced formation is just like a high OT. The fact that numerous club and international teams use a high OT should not be considered for this point. I do remember in 2010, Spain, in its pursuit of the WC, used a very similar tactic to this bug version. I believe the scored a quick goal and placed all their players within the goal mouth. No one used hands but sacrificed their bodies to deflect all incoming shots. The TV ratings were stellar as everyone tuned in to see this dramatic match between very talented teams. I remember articles were written for years about the manager's prowess and intelligence of using his "unique" style of soccer to secure a necessary win. I had forgotten how "life-like" this bug actually is. Forgive us, you are right. The simulator is real? This simulator does not resemble reality It seems a little football simulator 95% of the formations do not resemble reality Because comparing a formation with reality? 95% of the formations Bugs exploit. Bugs of that are formation more shit, should not distinguish them from other Bugs |
04/03/2014 00:40 |
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Can you explain to me how 99% of the formations in this game exist with the sole intention of targeting and exploiting a bug within the game for the purpose of winning? I can't imagine carrying on in a game where everyone's objective is to try and out-cheat each other... | 04/03/2014 01:33 |
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SevenTop. I am not sure how much soccer you have ever played but most formations here resemble real life. If you watch Brazil their backs attack down the flanks. You are showing your ignorance. The main problem I have us how the attackers reacted. If it could be worked out that they still attacked I think it would be fine. The bug is what happens to the offense not that the box is packed. |
04/03/2014 02:39 |
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Exactly. ..forwards are programmed to pass backwards if there are too many defenders in front of them, even if the defenders are nowhere close. Between that and the lack of handballs in the box, this formation seemingly can't be scored on. Edited by @sabrefan62 04-03-2014 03:14 Edited by @sabrefan62 04-03-2014 04:51 |
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Lusoccer18 said: SevenTop. I am not sure how much soccer you have ever played but most formations here resemble real life. If you watch Brazil their backs attack down the flanks. You are showing your ignorance. The main problem I have us how the attackers reacted. If it could be worked out that they still attacked I think it would be fine. The bug is what happens to the offense not that the box is packed. Yes, that is the bug that should be worked out, that the offense doesn't attack. But doubtful the dev's will fix it unless it shows up in SM2. Maybe someone should use it over there and get their attention? |
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@sabrefan62 said: Exactly. ..forwards are programmed to pass backwards if there are too many defenders in front of them, even if the defenders are nowhere close. Between that and the lack of handballs in the box, this formation seemingly can't be scored on. I suppose someone should post the formation here so all of us can start using it. Maybe this will get devs attn. Then the only creative part of the game left, would be the race to score first and then activate this scrotum technique. |
04/03/2014 05:55 |
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@bowsey1986 said: We are not an all powerful entity with no rules to follow, you can be baffled if you like but if something happens that we believe is against the games ethics or an exploitation of a bug that is not in our criteria of sanctions we bring it to the devs as they have final say on these things. That is what we did and we were told not to punish it. i will quote the reply given "All of the tactics are legal, we cannot punish them. The only thing we can do about it is modify the sim to punish that tactic, which looks very dangerous to me. I'd rather do nothing about it, if it's overcomable." I will press them again to do something on this as back then the team using it was still conceding goals while he used the tactic. @s dont make the rules they just enforce them so yes in cases like this the devs do need to sign off on it My friend @bowsey, I am not asking you to punish the bloke. What i do sincerely suggest is to have a chat with him or send him a message pointing out how he is taking advantage of a bug and not really playing in the right spirit. I understand you have limitations, otherwise either luci or you would have already spanked the daylights out of him. Here you can use this template to send him a friendly message: " Hello dear @$%$%, I noticed you have been moving up your league quite well. Must congratulate you on that. Well done. Also noticed you have a unique formation, which changes its colours once you are a goal ahead. Its quite legal to use it at the moment and to be quite frank it is quite clever too, well done. But you see, the thing which makes Striker Manager different from other football games, is that we are a community. We not only play against each other but learn and compete in a friendly manner. Your formation, clever i must say again, is not in the spirit of the game. See what happens is that all your defenders, mids, forwards, coaches, their wives and children gather behind the GK and does not let the game move forward at all. Surely you must agree that even though you are winning, you are probably also not watching the whole shangbang as its boring. Here is my suggestion, why don't you reach out to us and we will help you form pretty good formations and also you will get chance to interact with many splendid managers in this game. Till the developers don't do anything, you can continue to use this formation as it is legal, but just letting you know that it will not earn you much respect which you deserve amongst your peers in this community we call Striker Manager. Cheers. " How about that Bowsey, a simple love letter like this should atleast get him thinking on the right direction and hopefully you don't need a sign off on this one. |
04/03/2014 06:11 |
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Good spade,but will be better in spanish!  |
04/03/2014 07:38 |
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why spanish Oye? | 04/03/2014 11:46 |
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Helo guys, While i understand the problem that we have here, I must say that this is not illegal. The simulation is a black box that outputs some results depending on some inputs( tactics, averages, etcetera ), and the guys that use this tactic are not abusing the system, because they use the same black box as we all use. I understand matches are ugly, and this tactic might have an above-average winning rate, but we cannot forbid every tactic that is better than the average. Where shall we put the line to ban the usage of a tactic? If we ban this one, should we ban every tactic that has an abnormal winning rate due to some non-logic behaviour of the simulator? Simulation has many things that differ from real football, and we have to live with it. And of top of that, this tactic is beatable by many ways, it should not be a problem apart from the "uglieness" of the simulation match. Obviously, we dont like this kind of tactic and we would be happy if people dont use it anymore, but as long as it's not a "hack" in our system, or something like that, it is not against the rules. We might modify the simulator on a later stage to prevent this kind of tactic being possible, but that is not possible right now i'm afraid, as we are giving priority to SM2. Regards. |
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