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Should certain tactics, such as these, be susceptible to punishment as per the exploitation of game bugs rule?
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Se7enTOP said: Bug Tactics are legal and I love them  LOL. Troll. Quite a serious topic for you to be trying to troll, but welcome nevertheless. We all should use a joke once in a while. |
03/03/2014 09:39 |
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Spade said: Se7enTOP said: Bug Tactics are legal and I love them LOL. Troll. Quite a serious topic for you to be trying to troll, but welcome nevertheless. We all should use a joke once in a while. I do not try to be a Troll ... I like the Bug Tactic, and is as legal as other formations. If that formation is punished, we should punish the 99% of the formations |
03/03/2014 15:43 |
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Spade said: Lusoccer18 said: Should be interesting if he promotes in his division and plays that way in div 2. I am considering playing 100% effort till I score then drop to this formation with low effort. Will help win games, protect stamina, and players might be cheaper since I only need 11 good ones. Hey, if this continues and more & more managers play this way... then i think this will become the standard way of playing. This is a extreme view, but by doing nothing, the devs are watering a plant which will devour the game. My only request is that the @'s should contact anyone who is reported of using this tactic and let them know in a stern manner that it's not the right thing. Also as Heid said, send a general note to everyone on not abusing the formations to take advantage of bugs. That should not need a dev to sign off on. The reluctance to do this simple task by @'s is baffling to be honest. Edited by Spade 28-02-2014 16:49 We are not an all powerful entity with no rules to follow, you can be baffled if you like but if something happens that we believe is against the games ethics or an exploitation of a bug that is not in our criteria of sanctions we bring it to the devs as they have final say on these things. That is what we did and we were told not to punish it. i will quote the reply given "All of the tactics are legal, we cannot punish them. The only thing we can do about it is modify the sim to punish that tactic, which looks very dangerous to me. I'd rather do nothing about it, if it's overcomable." I will press them again to do something on this as back then the team using it was still conceding goals while he used the tactic. @s dont make the rules they just enforce them so yes in cases like this the devs do need to sign off on it |
03/03/2014 16:03 |
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Se7enTOP said: Spade said: Se7enTOP said: Bug Tactics are legal and I love them LOL. Troll. Quite a serious topic for you to be trying to troll, but welcome nevertheless. We all should use a joke once in a while. I do not try to be a Troll ... I like the Bug Tactic, and is as legal as other formations. If that formation is punished, we should punish the 99% of the formations You are right. This advanced formation is just like a high OT. The fact that numerous club and international teams use a high OT should not be considered for this point. I do remember in 2010, Spain, in its pursuit of the WC, used a very similar tactic to this bug version. I believe the scored a quick goal and placed all their players within the goal mouth. No one used hands but sacrificed their bodies to deflect all incoming shots. The TV ratings were stellar as everyone tuned in to see this dramatic match between very talented teams. I remember articles were written for years about the manager's prowess and intelligence of using his "unique" style of soccer to secure a necessary win. I had forgotten how "life-like" this bug actually is. Forgive us, you are right. |
03/03/2014 16:07 |
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@bowsey1986 said: "All of the tactics are legal, we cannot punish them. The only thing we can do about it is modify the sim to punish that tactic, which looks very dangerous to me. I'd rather do nothing about it, if it's overcomable." That's an interesting quote. But not sure the only way to fix this is to make the sim punish the tactic. Why not just alter the advance formation editor to not allow such extreme player placement? Just pop up 'invalid formation' if players are positioned too far from their starting points. What's the point in only allowing 2xCDFs in the line up if advanced formations allow effectively playing 10? |
03/03/2014 19:46 |
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SirBobby said: @bowsey1986 said: "All of the tactics are legal, we cannot punish them. The only thing we can do about it is modify the sim to punish that tactic, which looks very dangerous to me. I'd rather do nothing about it, if it's overcomable." That's an interesting quote. But not sure the only way to fix this is to make the sim punish the tactic. Why not just alter the advance formation editor to not allow such extreme player placement? Just pop up 'invalid formation' if players are positioned too far from their starting points. What's the point in only allowing 2xCDFs in the line up if advanced formations allow effectively playing 10? To your point, it's a couple of things. 1. You could take advantage of training by playing 10 CDFs (or any position) 5 times a week and thus do crazy specific training, and get 7 from youth players. 2. With max of 2 per position and 5 max defenders, it limits you at least a little bit. If you're packing the box with 10 players, at least half of them won't be defenders so there are at least a few players who can't defend well. It's not as simple as just not allowing a certain number of players in the same area though, because people pack the box at times and it's perfectly acceptable, just they don't exploit this part of the sim when they do it, it's more to play heavy defense. Again, it's a crappy tactic, but it's not super simple to solve for a few reasons. |
03/03/2014 20:32 |
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Any evidence it can be scored on? | 03/03/2014 20:56 |
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Agree it's not trivial, but I suspect it's much easier for devs to address through formations than by changing the sim. I play quite heavy defence at times but wouldn't object to only having 2 or 3 players per square for example |
03/03/2014 20:57 |
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Lusoccer18 said: Any evidence it can be scored on? The first time it appeared 2 seasons ago it was being scored on, now it seems not |
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@bowsey1986 said: Lusoccer18 said: Any evidence it can be scored on? The first time it appeared 2 seasons ago it was being scored on, now it seems not The frustration in the game I watched was the opponent would not attack the offensive 1/3 when they had the ball. Saw no reason as to why. If they could attack then it would be packing the box and should be fun to watch people be pelted. |
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